Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Frontier Boys


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The result was   withdrawn by nom here. lifebaka++ 20:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The Frontier Boys

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I can't find any claims of notability from reliable sources. The film's creator does not appear notable, either.  ceran  thor 20:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting - i'm not familiar with the requirements for film "notability." thoughts? are new independent films notable? --Ericn9 (talk) 20:57, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that WP:NOTFILM would be helpful to read.  ceran  thor 21:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, just looking that over. Seems like the only case for notability at this point is the acting role of Rebecca St. James as the film is already mentioned on her page. --Ericn9 (talk) 21:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Second "notable person with a major role" (paraphrasing WP:NOTFILM) is Big Kenny --Ericn9 (talk) 21:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Having notable persons in the film might help, but what is required to meet WP:Notability (film) is to have the film written about and covered in multiple independent secondary sources. I have just given your article some major tweaks and added such sources. Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  --  JN  466  21:11, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * How about a Speedy Delete as a copyvio of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1613056/plotsummary ? It says © at the bottom of the page there... Peridon (talk) 21:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC) dealt with. Peridon (talk) 22:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * We have permission to use the plot summary from Frontier Boys Films, the owners of the copyright. One of the ways to confirm this is emailing the official press contact anisa@frontierboys.com --Ericn9 (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You have to do it by copyright release - easier to rewrite in fresh words... Peridon (talk) 22:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Plot synopsis re-written --Ericn9 (talk) 23:28, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: This indicates coverage. Is it not enough to indicate notability? Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 21:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * At a quick look, no. How reliable is mlive? BTW the IMDb article that this is copied from isn't reliable - being written by The Frontier Boys. This copyright violation has to be addressed before notability need be discussed. Peridon (talk) 22:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * As Erik noted below, the Mlive link was to a reprint of an article from Grand Rapids Press... so it qualifies as a proper and inpependent secondary source per WP:RS.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed the plot summary. The domain mlive.com just aggregates news articles from different newspapers. For example, this was published in The Grand Rapids Press last November. It is just republished on that website. Same for the other articles. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 22:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on the WP:C guidelines, I believe we have confirmed that we have permission to use the copy-written text, are we ok to add it back in? A plot summary is helpful in an article about a film. --Ericn9 (talk) 22:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC) re-written instead --Ericn9 (talk) 23:57, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Below an edit window, you will find blue things. Those tell you what's what, but WP:COPYRIGHT may be easier to understand... (May be...) Peridon (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per closing on WP:NF through WP:GNG.  Adding to the article now... sources found by Erik and some found by me, such as Holland Sentinel  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:29, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per RS coverage.--Epeefleche (talk) 10:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep with thanks to Ericn9 for listening and doing a rewrite (unlike so many), and to MichaelQSchmidt for another good job of rescue. Looks much better. Not my sort of film (I prefer Ice Age and Ratatouille), but a good article. Peridon (talk) 11:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per coverage indicating notability. It's no blockbuster film, but it has a reputation in Michigan at least. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 12:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


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