Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Frontrunnaz (songwriting and production team)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tone 19:03, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

The Frontrunnaz (songwriting and production team)

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:CREATIVE. Lots of text and sources, but so much of it is "notability by association", and it's difficult to see any notability for the production duo themselves. Relies heavily on the first two sources, which are primary source interviews from non-RS websites. The Billboard and Hip Hop Lately references do not mention the duo at all, and the NPR source is literally one passing mention in the whole interview. The mentions of certifications and awards are mostly inherited notability for co-writing one song on certified albums – they are not credited on Logic's Grammy-nominated single "1-800-273-8255", or on LeCrae's Dove-nominated "Cant Do You". The only song of theirs which has received any kind of individual recognition is "Till the End", on which they were two of five co-writers, and it has been certified gold by the RIAA. But this seems to be the only source which genuinely passes RS, and it is neither multiple nor in-depth. The work with Serena Williams doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere apart from Serena name-checking them on her social media... and it's worth noting that Serena and the Frontrunnaz' Diondria Thornton are in fact close friends since childhood. All the personal information regarding their early lives, meeting up, and their children is barely referenced, suggesting a COI from someone who knows them personally. There's no question that the duo have worked with many notable artists, but there is a lack of sources to demonstrate their own notability. Richard3120 (talk) 18:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Kudos to the nominator for the in-depth investigation of the text and sources in the article. I would also cite violations of WP:INHERITED and WP:PROMOTION, but otherwise I can add little to what the nominator has already said. The duo indeed has a few songwriting and production credits with notable people, but they are still a few degrees of separation away from notability for themselves. The article has way too many unsupported claims, and as a distinct entity they have almost no reliable coverage except for brief mentions in publications that are about other people. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 19:45, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.