Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fuse (Scottish band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Catfish Jim has made some strong points regarding the potential availability of printed sources regarding this band, and the strong suggestion of implied notability from their appearance on a major radio show. I'd emphasise, though, that sources do need to be added, and clearly identified in the case of printed media, so as to comply with the verifiability policy - but this has been to some extent done, so the earlier comments in favour of deletion may no longer be accurate. ~ mazca  talk 15:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

The Fuse (Scottish band)

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Poorly written and clutching at straws throughout, this article looks like it has been lingering on Wikipedia since 2008; attracting little attention from any editors thereafter. It has no citations and can't reveal anything on Google except that perennial favourite Myspace. Most certainly fails WP:MUS and looks like an advert for this erstwhile band. The biography is high on puffery, examples such as "created a buzz around northern Britain back in 2001": "played outstanding gigs at the infamous CBGB": "2005 saw a string of excellent gigs throughout the UK." Furthermore there is not a single review of their only album North Eastern Town to be located on Google. Au revoir. Bluidsports (talk) 17:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Can't find any evidence of notability: no reviews of their album, and while their name is very generic not seeing any results for it either. If someone has a bunch of old music magazines, they may be able to save this, but right now it's looking a very clear case for deletion. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable Myspace band.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:43, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve It's not written in accepted Wikipedia style and could do with a general reigning in of puffery, but there are hints of notability here. A lot of what's wrong here is that it appears to have been written by an enthusiastic fan rather than someone versed in WP convention. The article is badly in need of references, but as per WP:MUSBIO criterion 12:
 * Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.
 * The article states that they were featured in session on BBC Radio Scotland's Vic Galloway show. This is the biggest national music radio show in Scotland and a live session involves a large part of the show being devoted to that band (five or six tunes, if I remember correctly).
 * Assuming references can be found, this article should be developed rather than deleted.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  12:36, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Delete Playing 5 songs on the radio sadly isn't enough for notability. There needs to be coverage of the band from at least some Scottish media. I can't find anything about the band;94.197.127.141 (talk) 07:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC) nothing for their album either.
 * Comment One of the problems with finding reliable sources for historical music and band related articles is that published reviews have an online shelf-life and you have to rely on printed format publiations (shock, horror!). It's lack of online presence is simply a measure of how current it is, and as per WP:NTEMP, notability is not temporary. I've identified a review in Is This Music? magazine, a mention in ShortList magazine, a review in The Courier (Scotland's second most widely circulated newspaper, currently trying to locate the review itself), a couple of paragraphs in a book The Great Scots Musicography (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Scots-Musicography-M-C-Strong/dp/1841830410). There will be more, but finding them may take a few days.
 * A radio session usually involves a significant reportage/interview element as well as the songs being played. This is sufficient to satisfy WP:MUS criterion 12.  Catfish  Jim  and the soapdish  10:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep The Vic Galloway section on the BBC website doesn't list a lot of musicians, but it list them.   That and other sources found, indicate notability.   D r e a m Focus  18:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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