Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Garden Hotel, Guangzhou


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. After extended time for discussion, there is a clear consensus to keep, and no reason to expect that further extending the discussion will lead to any different outcome. BD2412 T 06:29, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

The Garden Hotel, Guangzhou

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This article does not meet WP:NCORP or WP:NGEO. It's nothing more than advertisement. Gentleman wiki (talk) 00:27, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Gentleman wiki (talk) 00:27, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Expensive hotels like this one are usually notable (not because they're expensive, but because they get written about, in part because of the high-profile events and individual guests they host), and at least some of the references in the article are probably acceptable. Style issues can be resolved by editing. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:54, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Significant hotel in China. As the official hotel of the 2010 Asian Games. Sun8908 &#8239;Talk 11:23, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I don't see convincing, policy based arguments, beyond unsupported assertions that this is significant or that it is not.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:51, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Sun8908 and Eastmain -GorgonaJS (talk) 19:05, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:JUSTAVOTE LibStar (talk) 00:03, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete being "significant" or expensive is not a criteria for notability. I could not find significant third party coverage. Most of the cited references are merely about non notable industry awards. LibStar (talk) 00:03, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep notable events caused that to be notable. First paragraph of article alongside with the sources establish the hotel's notability.Brayan ocaner (talk) 20:16, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep while the article reads like an advertisment, the way to resolve this is through editing not deletion. A major hotel in a major city that has hosted large events. I've added a couple of references. NemesisAT (talk) 15:46, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes from Google Translate: "The exterior design of the Garden Hotel came from the world-renowned architect I.M. Pei. This is the only time I. M. Pei, who was born in Guangzhou, has designed a building in Guangzhou. Pei, who is good at using glass, set up a round arched awning at the front entrance of the Garden Hotel, and a checkered ceiling made up of metal strips. Each is embedded with glass bricks, and the sunlight during the day and the light at night are reflected by 1320 glass bricks. Next, the hotel is dazzling." The article further notes from Google Translate: "Pei later recommended the Hong Kong architect Situ Hui to preside over the main design of the Garden Hotel to Li Mingze. The interior design of the hotel is as close to Pei’s modernist design style as possible. Situ Hui used Foshan’s traditional marble murals to embellish them. The stone murals later became important works of art in the Garden Hotel. Among them, the front of the hotel lobby The 150-square-meter large-scale gold-inlaid mural "A Dream of Red Mansions" is the most famous. Mr. Jin Yong once commented: "If you enter the Grand View Garden, you will be in the Rongguo Mansion.""  The article notes from Google Translate: "As the first batch of high-end hotels built by domestic foreign investment after China's reform and opening up, the Guangzhou Garden Hotel was jointly initiated by Liao Chengzhi, former vice chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress and Hong Kong celebrity Li Mingze, with a total investment of nearly one billion Hong Kong dollars. Preparations for the hotel began in 1979. The concept design was carried out by the internationally renowned architect and designer Pei I.M. Yang Shangkun, then secretary of the Guangzhou Municipal Party Committee and former state chairman, laid the foundation, and a generation of great man Deng Xiaoping wrote the name of the store by himself. On August 28, 1985, the Guangzhou Garden Hotel was fully opened; in July 1990, it was rated as a five-star hotel for foreigners by the National Tourism Administration, becoming one of the earliest five-star hotels in my country; in July 2007, it was rated as a five-star platinum star in China Class hotel; In 2010, it became the official headquarters hotel of the 16th Guangzhou Asian Games."  The article notes from Google Translate: "Guangzhou Garden Hotel, opened in 1985, is currently the largest five-star business hotel in China. Its birth and development have been enthusiastically supported by leaders at all levels of the central, provincial and municipal levels, and celebrities from Hong Kong, Macau, and at home and abroad. It is hailed as the fruit of reform and opening up and a model of Sino-foreign cooperation." There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow The Garden Hotel, Guangzhou to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:26, 11 October 2021 (UTC) </ul>


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