Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Girl Thief


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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

The Girl Thief

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This film was tagged for notability in February. It has 3 citations listed, but none are linked to view online. I trust that they are legitimate, especially since the film is 110 years old and tough to verify. However, I've been down this road before...if I remove the notability tag, the editor (or another editor) will just put it back. Notability tags shouldn't last forever...in my opinion they shouldn't be used at all, if you don't think an article is notable just put it up for deletion and that will solve it...but I digress.

So, instead of going through that "edit war" of removing/adding the tag again, I figured I would put it up for deletion and see if others agree that the film is notable (and the tag should go) or if it isn't notable (and the article should go.) Thanks. Donaldd23 (talk) 15:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 15:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 15:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment and provisional keep. This looks like a rehash of Articles for deletion/The Fisherman's Granddaughter. Source publications are identical; director of the film is the same; I assume the same person wrote both articles. I don't have time to find URLs for the sources listed here, but I would be very surprised if they weren't precise analogues of the reviews for that article: short, but definitely SIGCOV, in multiple, well-known publications of the time. So I'm saying "provisional keep" because I haven't yet tracked down the sources, but I'm positive they're genuine. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:05, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: I found the Moving Picture World review and the Variety review on the Internet Archive, along with a detailed description from The Film Index, a contemporary publication that described movies so that exhibitors would know what to order. Donaldd23, you should check out the vast film magazine archives that the Internet Archive offers. They have searchable issues of all the old film magazines, including Variety, Motion Picture World, The Film Daily, Motion Picture Herald, Moving Picture World, etc. You can source reviews for pretty much any American movie made in the first half of the twentieth century, including short subjects. — Toughpigs (talk) 18:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and good work Toughpigs. Hyperbolick (talk) 01:50, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep and thank you to ToughPigs. The inability of editors to click on a citation and view it is not grounds for an article's deletion. I would understand if it just said "Variety" and "Motion Picture World," but these were good citations and the nominator could have asked someone -- other editors, librarians -- for help researching. If the nominator isn't comfortable removing the tag, then they should move on to other articles rather than ignore their gut instinct that the film is notable. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 00:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion and in the article so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.