Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Good Doctor (season 1)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. When it's inevitably recreated in a year or two, please make sure that proper attribution is maintained. ansh 666 07:08, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

The Good Doctor (season 1)

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TV series. Copied from The Good Doctor (TV series). The series only just finished one season and second season in 2019 has yet to schedule. No reason to have 2 copies or split them.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:25, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 12:25, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep The second season is merely two months away, not 2019. We usually allow splits of season articles out one a second season is confirmed (and episodes have begun to be scheduled); by the time the seven days end, 80/20 that ABC announces the premiere date for S2, thus it would be pointless to delete this at this point.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 21:26, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as per past consensus explained above for a valid split article from a parent article that is notable, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 21:29, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as long as someone is going to put a bit of work into. - adamstom97 (talk) 02:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Then it should be moved to the draftspace. - Brojam (talk) 02:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong delete Not enough content to split per WP:SPLIT, WP:SUMMARY, WP:SPINOUT, WP:LENGTH and per ignored discussion on show's talkpage Talk:The Good Doctor (TV series) Not to mention the split was done incorrectly and without proper attribution. - Brojam (talk) 02:12, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Nobody has added a talk page comment since April, so whatever consensus there is has long expired. Deal with it here; don't cite outdated and little-trafficked topics about a split-out.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:57, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That was only three months ago, and WP:CONSENSUS does not state a time limit. --  Alex TW 03:03, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The entire idea that consensuses expire is daft.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is no reason to be rude. Nate: discussions does not "expire". Instead the assumption is that if nobody objects (anymore) and a discussion goes "silent", that is taken to mean "consensus by silence". In other words, if you don't agree you need to speak up - letting a matter lie is taken to mean you do not disapprove! If you think about it you will hopefully realize why handling it this way helps Wikipedia more; otherwise please read WP:SILENCE. Regards CapnZapp (talk) 08:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Wow, I didn't expect it to read that way at all; from my experience, many editors like me don't usually deal with the talk pages because most editing items are dealt with in the article and editing history itself outside of move discussions, and we don't usually check talk because all that's there is (80% of the time rejected/blank) IP edit requests and bot notices. Apologies if this came off as brusque, but just relating my experiences that 'list of' talk pages usually don't have much activity.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 05:44, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per ; not enough content to satisfy a separate season article, with exceptionally little production information and zero reception and ratings information. Move it to the draft so that it can be properly changed to a valid season article that can stand on its own away from the series' parent article. --  Alex TW 02:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Alex and Brojam, amount of content does not justify a split. I agree with Alex, move it to a draft space to improve on for the time being. QueerFilmNerd  talk 06:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge back to main article and delete. We do not need split articles until WP:Article length criteria are met. The fact that people from WP:WikiProject Television (in which I am a participant) keep splitting articles without due cause doesn't make it right, just a WP:CONLEVEL problem.  Obsessive splitting like this is also a maintenance drain on editorial productivity better spent elsewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMcCandlish (talk • contribs) 07:29, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Just a comment, but the active WP:TV members and participants are actually pretty stern on not splitting too early. The issue of splitting early is normally due to random editors that aren't aware of Wikipedia's and WP:TV's guidelines. --  Alex TW
 * I'm an active WP:TV participant and I do not approve this message. -- Netoholic @ 09:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you provide examples of active WP:TV members and participants being the cause of early splits? --  Alex TW 12:34, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - the main page is at 82k bytes right now, which per WP:SPLIT puts it well past "Probably should be divided" level and closer to "Almost certainly should be divided". -- Netoholic @ 07:45, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The WP:SPLIT table concerns "readable prose", and not the entire size of the article. I think there's a script for determining how much readable prose there is... --  Alex TW 08:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If you find such a tool, please add it to WP:SPLIT. I think that table though should go by source size, since that is the size most important to editors and to the database storage techs. The principle and my vote stands. -- Netoholic @ 08:53, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:RPS lists two methods, one of which is XTools, which gives 9,245 bytes/characters of prose. Well under the correct interpretation of the SPLIT table; more "Length alone does not justify division". --  Alex TW 08:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:CHOKING gets to the heart of the matter - the size of the article for both mobile viewing and editing need to be taken into consideration. The principle stands - int two months, information about the 2nd season will start being incoroporated into this article. It is inevitable, barring some out-of-left-field cancellation, that the 2nd season will proceed. I don't understand the fighting over this. My vote stands. -- Netoholic @ 09:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying your !vote needs to change. I'm just letting you know that you misread SPLIT and interpreted it incorrectly. That's all. --  Alex TW 11:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete – per WP:SPLIT, WP:SUMMARY, WP:LENGTH, and especially WP:CRYSTAL: there is absolutely no harm in waiting. —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete. No reason to fork this away from the main page, from which it was obviously copypasted and not attributed, nor was anything additional added outside of the episode list draft. —  Wylie pedia  @ 12:14, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:25, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete As argued by others, there is no valid reason to split, and not every season is notable enough to warrant its own article, certainly it's presumptuous to assume that. Hzh (talk) 12:09, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete—The character count of the main article, including the content in tables and section headers (though I didn't copy the infobox or references section) is about 29k characters or 4.7k words. A split may be appropriate once the third season approaches though.&mdash; Alpha3031 (talk &#124; contribs) 06:28, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.