Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Great Story (2nd nomination)


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The result was No consensus (default to keep). Kei lana (recall) 21:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

The Great Story
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procedural nomination&mdash;version at time of AFD nomination: This has been to AFD several times, yet was found tagged for PROD-deletion. PROD nominator states: "No claim to notability (CSD A7)". User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 23:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletions.   —User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 23:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * frag still no assertion of notability. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 02:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article has cites to works and websites by what are described as participants in a common movement that largely appear to be self-published. For this reason, it appears at first glance to be potentially original research. Do we have any independent sources commenting on this subject and independently verifying that (a) The various disparate individuals works really comprise a connected subject or movement (otherwise, collecting them into a subject would represent an original research synthesis) and (b) the subject is notable? The fact that some of these individuals may be scientists is irrelevant because they are talking in their "story" hats, not their scientific ones. For this reason I believe this article needs to be evaluated as would any article on a claimed new religious movement or development that cites largely to movement participant's own self-published works. As with any religion article, independent sources are the key to avoiding a delete. If there are independent sources referenced and I've missed them, would it be possible to list some of them here? Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 04:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I think Evolution Theology should also be up for nomination, as they seem to have extremely similar content. -- Nick Penguin ( contribs ) 04:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The term Great Story is certainly used by modern theologians to describe an integration of the scientific with the theological. Google Scholar quickly found these three. There are many more. Lumos3 (talk) 10:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Evolutionary Faith: Rediscovering God in Our Great Story, Diarmuid O'Murchu Taschenbuch - Orbis Books (USA) (Oct 2002) - 280 Pages ISBN 1570754519
 * Partnership with Nature According to the Scriptures: Beyond the Theology of Stewardship,H. Paul Santmire, 2003 Christian Scholar's Review
 * Rethinking the Scientific Revolution. Cambridge University Press.Margaret J. Osler, editor. New York:2000. Pp. xii, 340. . Review in American Historical Review Vol 106 No 4.


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