Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Greatest Ukrainians


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The result was   keep. Courcelles 23:38, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

The Greatest Ukrainians

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Non-notable, possibly copyvio. cf. Articles for deletion/200 Greatest Israelis. List articles that simply reproduce lists published elsewhere are non-notable. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:58, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't understand what's wrong with the article. Specifically with formatting which consist a hundred properly formatted links and several tables. Could you be more explicit with Wiki's contributors? Thank you. Stanislav (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:51, 6 October 2011 (UTC).
 * Response WP:GNG states that we need significant coverage in third-party sources that show this topic is notable. Those need to be provided, rather than simply reproducing a list; there are thousands of lists out there by thousands of publications: why is this one important? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:15, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. As was explained at length at the indicated AfD, there is obviously no copyvio.  None at all.  If there were, we would have to delete (and no press could reflect) the results of Academy Award polls, and Gallup Polls, and the like.  The relevant Supreme Court case (Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service, 111 S. Ct. 1282 (1991)) was already set forth at the above-indicated AfD.  See also (with the same conclusion) the failed AfDs at Articles for deletion/100 greatest Romanians and Articles for deletion/100 Greatest Britons; and note that copyvio wasn't even claimed in the failed Afd at Articles for deletion/The Greatest American.
 * I note, as well, that this appears to be part of a series of two dozen AfDs by the same nom, of most of the national poll results reflected here.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:27, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. First, I note that at Articles for deletion/100 Welsh Heroes, the closer of the AfD to which the nom points objected to nom's use of his close as precedent.  He wrote: "No blanket declaration about the inherent notability of such lists was made, or even implied, in my closing statement .... And I don't know how much clearer I could have been that copyright issues were not considered as a factor in that close."


 * Second, it is clear as discussed above that there is not any copyvio. In addition, nom's last sentence is simply inapplicable.  As to notability, I agree editor Stanislav, above.  I also note (as wp:otherstuffexists permits) that we have thousands of lists of people from country x (or city y, or college z), which weren't even the results of polls -- just collections that random editors chose -- and this certainly has greater indicia of notability than such lists.


 * Finally, I note that at the 2-dozen-odd AfDs that nom made of the same ilk most commentators are expressing keen disagreement with nom's parallel nominations. The AfDs, which are running concurrently with this one, can be found at most of the national poll results reflected here.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep These lists are very useful for finding very notable biographies.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep just, as for the others.Not copyvio, as has been clearly explained above. There is no policy against these lists, and the assertion of the nom does not make policy  DGG ( talk ) 16:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This AfD was not transcluded in the log. &mdash; Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 18:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - No copyvio problems. A functional list of notable people. Northamerica1000 (talk) 17:35, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Same reasons as the others, listed here and in the dozen or so other articles. No copyright violation, it fine.   D r e a m Focus  18:39, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Non notable for an American, probably. But the English Wikipedia is not the American Wikipedia, it is the encyclopedia of the universal knowledge. The show and this vote is very notable in Ukraine; there was though a big controversy about it because apparently, on the first vote, Stepan Bandera, nationalist leader, was ranked first. There's hundreds of sources about this show and this ranking . This ranking is mentioned in several articles in Ukrainian Wikipedia, like the Ukrainian article of Stepan Bandera. And I'm not Ukrainian. DeansFA (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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