Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Green Bus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ignoring a number of 'keep' !votes which had no policy basis whatsoever, we are left with a discussion around NCORP v GNG and then an evaluation of sources. HighKing correctly notes that NCORP is the key guideline to be referenced in this discussion, per my understanding of policy and current practice. At that point, I need to weigh up the argument about the sourcing...and once again I find HighKing's argument the most persuasive. This is a close-run thing and, like all close-run things, it may change in the future if there are new sources that pop up - so this close definitely isn't precluding a recreation if appropriate sources appear. Daniel (talk) 14:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

The Green Bus

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No coverage outside of local news (see WP:AUD) - fails WP:NCORP. SK2242 (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. SK2242 (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. SK2242 (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. SK2242 (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep as per sources in the article as well as these sources: . Certainly notable and certainly meets BASIC. – Davey 2010 Talk 01:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As I’ve pointed out in the nomination, subjects that are only covered in local news aren’t good enough for NCORP per WP:AUD. SK2242 (talk) 03:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As Birmingham Mail is sold across the West Midlands, and the articles appear on Birmingham Live, which is read by over 9m a month, I think they count as regional not local news and so therefore can be counted as per WP:AUDDavidstewartharvey (talk) 10:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep a notable bus company. passes WP:GNG. DoctorsHub (talk) 05:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * KeepDiificult to find refs as company name has been used by 3 UK companies, one in India and 1 in Singapore. However added more refs including High Court case. With OneRoute award, a national award in the bus industry, I think this meets notability.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 08:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting to allow discussion of the provided sources vis-a-vis NCORP specifically.
 * Delete per nom. It's not notable. AnotherEditor144talk contribs 09:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, needs some work, but not reason to delete. Lilporchy (talk) 05:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to be notable per WP:GNG. Expertwikiguy (talk) 02:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Meeting BASIC and/or GNG is irrelevant - this is a company and the appropriate guidelines are NCORP. The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references in the article meet the criteria. They're all based on company announcements and/or interviews and have zero in-depth information on the company (that wasn't provided by the company) - these cannot be used to establish notability. Having searched I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria. Topic fails WP:NCORP.  HighKing++ 22:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 23:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: I'm not sold that I've done a thorough news search, because it's proving somewhat difficult to distinguish news about this and news about the unrelated Green Bus Fund. But I'm not coming up with much of substance. Willing to be proven wrong. Gnomingstuff (talk) 03:00, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.