Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Happy Show


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. WaltonOne 13:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

The Happy Show

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Local-access cable tv show in Evansville, Indiana. No claim of notability beyond that. NawlinWiki 16:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. No claim of notability and apparently self-promotion (see Wikipedia user name and name of singer-songwriter referenced in article). --Evil1987 16:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Possible keep. I am not THE Alan Williams. I am simply a fan of his work. Does someone have to be WORLD WIDE Famous to be included on a Website like this? What about RENETTO? I have discovered that he is on this site. What has he done to earn the title of "famous" or "notability" other than make videos for YouTube? Who has the right to say that someone is famous or not famous anyway? Yes my username is Awilliams100 but that does not say I am the person whom I was writing about. Many messageboards feature users who use another persons name do they not? Evil - your username states you are called Evil - does that mean Evil is your name? I doubt it. --Awilliams100
 * The article on renetto provides no less than five references from very reliable secondary sources to establish his notability. "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."  If you can meet that criteria for your article, you shouldn't have a problem achieving a "speedy close" of this AfD, keeping the article. --Evil1987 18:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And my apologies if you are not "the" Alan Williams, but it will ultimately be the lack of notability and not any possible self-promotion that will get this article deleted, if such a thing happens. From WP:COI, "Conflict of interest is not a reason to delete an article, but lack of notability is."--Evil1987 18:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize, was an easy mistake to make. But I do however, believe that the artist deserves a spot in Wikipedia, seeing as he does currently have an EP release on iTunes, Rhapsody and numerous others. These links were provided in an earlier submission I had made, which was soon after, deleted (and fast). I do know of other sources, but not all information is available via the internet. Such as a newspaper article and other material I have found in the past (not via the internet). Mr. Williams is a working artist. He many not be "world famous" but he is definitely notable for his work in many areas. --Awilliams100
 * Information to establish notability doesn't have to come from the internet--have a look at the link I gave above. Also, keep in mind this deletion discussion pertains to The Happy Show, not Mr. Williams. --Evil1987 18:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand that. Just that there is no deletion discussion regarding Williams. The Happy Show has also gotten notability in other countries - please refer to This article discussing The Happy Show on a British TV documentary series in England. The Happy Show was featured in that perticular episode of the show. --Awilliams100
 * Um, no. The BBC link is actually a story about John Sweeney (journalist), that merely has a link to a YouTube video of the Happy Show's parody interview of Sweeney.  This is not a BBC "feature", or even recognition, of the Happy Show. NawlinWiki 20:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It should be pointed out that "The Happy Show" has been mentioned on the Internet by no less a respectable site than www.businessweek.com where an article (February 27, 2007) was written about the producer of the program's battle with Viacom over the wrongful removal of a parody video from YouTube. Also, as noted above, BBC's long-running "Panorama" news program did interview Matthew Hawes and his puppet Happy over a parody concerning the news program's investigative reporter and his rant against The Church of Scientology. The interview was aired on the BBC on July 16, 2007. I would think those two instances, one National, the other International, would make the inclusion of "The Happy Show" as an entry on Wikipedia noteworthy. Please refer the edits I made on that entry for direct links to said article and news program for verification. -- User:ThomasSteele — User:Thomassteele (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * The businessweek.com article doesn't seem to make any direct reference to the show, just to Mr. Hawes. And I got the same impression from the BBC link that NawlinWiki did. --Evil1987 20:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * See above re the BBC "feature". As for the Business Week story, which is here, I do not think that it establishes the notability of the Happy Show.  The article was about policing video copyrights in general.  The fact that someone happens to be interviewed for a news story (that's not primarily about them) does not make them notable. NawlinWiki 21:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Excuse me and for your information, it sounds to me like Wikipedia is simply singling out people or subjects that THEY feel are "notable" The Happy Show WAS featured on the BBC series Panorama - I think that anyone who has been featured on a TV series ANYWHERE for whatever reason, is regarded in my humble opinion, as "notable". The Happy Show has been ON THE AIR on TELEVISION for the past FOUR YEARS. It has been the subject of a news item, articles in numerous e-zines and magazines, and has a large fanbase and following. If this is not notable in your eyes what is? Of course, may I again mention how you feature a subject such as Renetto, a simple YouTube user who makes videos - but you question the notablity of a TV series? That sounds to me like you are picking people who you favor, not what your site visitors may find interesting or enjoyable. --Awilliams100
 * Keep Notoriety acquired from battle with Viacom makes this show notable. And being featured on BBC series Panorama is an additional indication of notability.--orlady 01:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per lack of notability - That article about Viacom does not mention this show by name once in the article.  It only talks about the copyright dispute the creator faced, which I would say is not significant coverage.  Corpx 04:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTE as outlined by Corpx. --Aarktica 21:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.