Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Hideout (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete - no reliable sources, no evidence of notability, strong evidence of a copyright violation. Bearian (talk) 22:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The Hideout
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This article does not establish notability of this radio show and has no references. This show has bounced from station to station for years, has not gained enough of an audience to establish itself. We cant have a wikipedia article for every local radio show out there. Rtphokie (talk) 12:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The notability of the radio show is that it's been on in multiple major markets, is known to, and related to, several big name radio shows including Ron and Fez, Opie and Anthony, the Monsters in the Morning, and Don and Mike. It's not just another local radio show, and even if it were I don't see how that is a dis-qualifier considering the other far lesser known shows also with pages.  radiogoldenboy (talk) 11:47, 25 March 2008


 * Comment I'm willing to withdraw this AFD if sufficient references from reliable sources are added. At present there are no references at all the refernces are not sufficient to establish notability (1 very small local paper and 1 blog).--Rtphokie (talk) 16:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I completely agree that this article should not be deleted. This show has aired in D.C., Orlando, New York City, Atlanta, and nationwide on XM Radio. It currently airs locally D.C., and nationally on XM. I do agree that references are needed. However, it appears the article has been written by someone with firsthand knowledge of the show's history, because of the lack of reputable print or internet sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.64.164 (talk) 03:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment If insufficient verifiable sources are available, this article should be deleted per WP:OR. Wikipedia does not publish original research.  The only references found to date is mention of the Orlando's show's cancellation on a radio blog on the Orlando Sentinel website and a tiny newspaper in Falls Church.  Reliable sources should be much easier to come by for a notable show.--Rtphokie (talk) 15:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment like others have said this show has aired in Atlanta, new york, DC, Orlando, Lansing, and all across the us and Canada on XM. also why can't we have a wikipedia article for every local show out there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.134.129.206 (talk) 22:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment FYI, this article is currently being reviewed for copyright concerns. It's almost entirely made up of a direct copy from the WTKS website. --Rtphokie (talk) 01:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

"(21:16:22) jdubshideout: I did it so i know... the wiki page went up before we were even on in orlando"
 * Comment The information on here that is on WTKS's webpage was copied from here. Here is a Quote from one of the Hosts (J-Dubs):


 * Comment First check Rtphokie's actions, he clearly has a vendetta against DC based radio shows, for whatever reason. Second, the whole 'copyright infringement' is nonsense as the WTKS page was in fact a copy of the wikipedia page, not the other way around.  Thirdly the very fact that this is being debated this much is reason enough there should be a page, there is after all a page for a very obscure book about Jabba the Hutt, so a still on the air radio show in a major markey is hardly able to be disputed as deservering a page.  radiogoldenboy 9:12, 07 April 2008 (UTC)

If you don't believe that is him just send him an email or talk to him in AIM So there is no copyright issue.

Walt1028 (talk) 01:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete copyvio. The history link speaks for itself.B.Wind (talk) 06:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.