Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Himalayan Times


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. the wub "?!"  13:49, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

The Himalayan Times

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Non-notable newspaper. The situation isn't helped by historical newspapers of the same name (Such as one distributed in West Bengal from 1947 on ) I attempted to do WP:BEFORE in this case but as this is the first time I've had to do it for a newspaper I don't know what string to use to even begin to look for sources. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Onward to 2020 05:22, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nepal-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Strong Keep I can't fault the nom going by the state the article is in. But it's one of the premier English papers published in Nepal. Unfortunately, I am unable to try and improve the article right now but I would assure anyone willing to take the time to try that this is a topic that we should absolutely keep. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:50, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * We need to have sources in order to keep this; what is in the article at present doesn't come close to cutting it. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Onward to 2020 06:24, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. According to WorldCat, The Himalayan Times is held by over 500 libraries. A Google search in Nepali also reveals that reports from The Himalayan Times are cited in other major newspapers, e.g., the Hindustan, Punjab Kesari , and Rajasthan Patrika . This seems sufficient to pass criterion 4 of WP:NMEDIA. FWIW, The Himalayan Times is also cited frequently on Wikipedia—just take a look at its incoming links. Even if this article is never as extensive as our articles on The New York Times or The Washington Post, deleting it would be a disservice to our readers who want to find out some basic info about the newspaper, such as its city of publication or year of establishment. For a newspaper the size of The Himalayan Times, I think it's likely that a few Nepalese sources could be found that describe the paper's history or impact. If a through WP:BEFORE in Nepalese sources turns up no independent coverage of the paper whatsoever, I'd be willing to reconsider my !vote; however, I think that the paper's impact, as demonstrated by the library holdings and citations in other sources, is enough to presume notability per WP:NMEDIA. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 15:04, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep easily one of the top-ranked English-language daily newspapers in Nepal. A Google search of newspapers of Nepal turns up multiple hits regarding significance.--Goldsztajn (talk) 16:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:08, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment This source has some useful bits. The publisher and the author are both RSes and no connection is immediately apparent. This one is also SIGCOV. It chronicles how the paper approached journalism when press freedom was under attack following the King's coup when the paper was relatively young. I don't know how useful it is to expand the article, but it adds to notability and at least names the then editor-in-chief which could help in building the history section. This says THT was ranked at the top tier of Nepalese print media based on quality. This factchecker says THT is one of the major national dailies and tracks quality of its reporting. I found a few other reports on THT's coverage quality, and a few Nepali sources that can add a sentence or a clause each. I think any book on history of Nepalese journalism published in the last decade should have enough SIGCOV, someone should try to find it. It's likely in the top 3 of Nepal-related sources routinely used in Wikipedia and it is in the top 2 among English dailies in Nepal. Its competitors are not likely to write routine positive news about it and what it writes about itself would not add to notability. So, it's a tough ask to try and establish GNG with online sources which have almost no archives and older urls seem to get overwritten within a few years. Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:39, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Well regarded among foreign correspondents writing for major newspapers in the region and the definitive source for news in Nepal. Although somewhat arbitrary, a cursory look at its audience / reach on social media shows the HT has a major presence: both twitter followers and facebook likes reach over 90k. JamesMatthews01 (talk) 23:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. AfD is not cleanup. -- Visviva (talk) 06:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


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