Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The History of Leather in Relation to the Jewish Tradition


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure)  TB randley  07:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The History of Leather in Relation to the Jewish Tradition

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Not worthy of an article. Possibly made up(no references). ♥ Tentinator ♥ 06:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There are references, but the badly formatted page did not show them. I have now tidied up the page so refs are visible. No opinion on keep/delete at this stage. Emeraude (talk) 14:48, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * NOTE:The article has been renamed to Jewish views of leather, per Category:Jewish views. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:39, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge whatever is usable to a History subhead under Leather. The article as it stands now is OR, as the sources discuss Leather-making in the Bible and Tanning in the Bible. There is no connection between leather and "Jewish tradition". Yoninah (talk) 15:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Change !vote to Keep per IZAK and inclusion under Category:Jewish views, and per WP:RS and WP:V, as article is based on the source material. Yoninah (talk) 09:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - not sure about merge. Seems a classic case of OR from some kid's school homework. Emeraude (talk) 16:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It may seem like it, but it clearly isn't. See my comment below.-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 15:36, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: There's really not enough substantive encyclopedic content to justify a merge. However, if an editor deems some bit or piece of the article to be salvageable, it could be incorporated into Biblical clothing. --Mike Agricola (talk) 17:28, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: In light of the article being renamed and rewritten, I can now agree that the topic is encyclopedic and notable. --Mike Agricola (talk) 14:01, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The information is valid, however, the formatting was terrible I admit. Feel free to delete it, if you do not agree.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mglederman (talk • contribs) 18:03, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep The article appears to be based on an entry in the Jewish Encyclopedia that is linked in the article. The source is proper and the henceforth the topic is proper. My understanding is that the copyright on these articles have expired but I'm no expert. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 15:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per Brewcrewer (good catch!) and Speedy Close. NOTE: The article is now renamed Jewish views of leather. This is now a fairly complete and legitimate article that complies with WP:RS and WP:V mostly from the free domain Jewish Encyclopedia of 1906. I have added new applicable categories as well as the Jewish Encyclopedia template. This is now the main article for the new Category:Uses of leather in Judaism. Like many other articles, this one still needs polishing (see WP:DONOTDEMOLISH and WP:CHANCE, and definitely proves the importance of WP:COMPETENCE), and could use improvement by competent editors but it's very encyclopedic. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep The article represents an emerging field in Jewish studies and presents several interesting facets concerning the evolution of the Jewish tradition. Most of the information is derived from Jewish encyclopedias and all information was cited.  I appreciate the help from whomever reformatted the article and corrected my faulty citations.  Mglederman (talk) 08:08, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Against the two points of the nomination: made up and non-notable. The Jewish Encyclopedia addresses both as untrue. Mkdw talk 23:18, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep added ref to 123 page book: David Gonzalo Maeso, Skin and leather in Judaism. Mishnahic-Talmudic and Medieval Ages (I-XV Centures), Vic. Spain 1979 In ictu oculi (talk) 00:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Snow keep. The sort of nomination that a good wp:before search could have avoided -- leading to less of a waste of time for the community.  Given this nomination by nom, as well as nom's recent nominations at Articles for deletion/JECatt and Articles for deletion/Jürgen Cain Külbel and Articles for deletion/Larry Greene, I would suggest that nom consider watching some discussions and participating in them and reconsidering how he nominates articles before engaging in too many nominations at this point.  Nominations which lack a proper basis waste the time of the community.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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