Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Homo Handbook


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The result was   no consensus. Dennis - 2&cent; 21:57, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

The Homo Handbook

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Article should be merged with Judy Carter, as there are no reliable secondary sources indicating significance. Grayfell (talk) 21:10, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Clarification: I apologize, my intention was not suggest WP:MERGEing the articles, it was to delete it and replace it with a redirect. There are good reasons not to use AFD for merging, which is why that was a mistake. At this point it's clear that the book should be mentioned at the Judy Carter article, but I'm still uncertain if it's noteworthy enough for its own article. Grayfell (talk) 23:44, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Winning a notable literary award, such as the Lambda Literary Awards, should in principle be enough notability for a book to qualify for a standalone article, though of course it's really all about the presence or absence of reliable source coverage. I've added a couple of sources that I pulled from the news databases available to me (Highbeam, GALE Gender Studies Collection and Proquest Canadian Newsstand Major Dailies), but I'm still not entirely convinced that the volume of sourcing here is quite enough — although there might admittedly be other sourcing available in databases I don't have access to. Weak keep, though I wouldn't object to the proposed merger either. Merge per nom, though I'm willing to reconsider that if somebody with access to different databases can beef up the sourcing a bit more than I've been able to (and no prejudice against future recreation if the sourcing can be located at a later date.) Bearcat (talk) 22:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I have added a primary source for the Lambda Literary Award. This is an award with a fairly large number of categories, (twenty, for the 9th Lambda Literary Awards), and this is easily mentioned in the author's article, so I'm not sure if this is enough to meet WP:BKCRIT or not. The award certainly belongs on the author's page. Grayfell (talk) 22:23, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * I agree it should not be deleted, a) it is a published work, not self published b) Judy won an award because of the book c) the book was involved in a controversy and specifically named d) they are third party sources that discuss the book. I have added one and in process of adding others 204.102.74.5 (talk) 21:01, 10 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I have added additional citation refering to the controversy.
 * Nerdypunkkid (talk) 18:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I beleive this article meets the criteria for notability. The homo handbook has won an award, it was involved in a controversy, and has multiple articles written about it. This means it fullfills both criteria 1 and 2 of WP:BKCRIT.
 * Nerdypunkkid (talk) 18:05, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Many of those articles are about either banned/challenged books in general, or a specific incident with a local library. Regarding the controversy, while it should certainly be mentioned if the article is kept, the sources are brief mentions of the book in listings of other banned books. The book was one of 55-70 books (sources don't agree) that were petitioned to be banned. That's not exactly standing out from a crowd. This kind of source isn't really that great for establishing notability in my opinion. They confirm that the book was challenged (not actually banned, from what I can tell), but that's not in question. This is similar to a description of the book on a bookseller's website. That's not really useful. Nobody is denying that the book exists. Again, this is something that seems like it could easily be mentioned in a sentence or two on Carter's page. Grayfell (talk) 20:40, 11 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, good source coverage. Recipient of Lambda Literary Award. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:20, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 21:08, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge selectively to Judy Carter - Not seeing reliable sources, and @, the Lambda Literary Award is not a "major literary award" such that it grants passage of WP:NBOOKS. Where are the sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhododendrites (talk • contribs)
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