Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Honey Trees


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Kurykh (talk) 04:09, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

The Honey Trees

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Local Californian band that has self released one EP and an album. Fails the notability criteria under WP:MUSIC. Karst (talk) 07:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I added more sources to the article (from reliable sources) and moved some of the text around. This article passes WP:Music via "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." I will also add any more information that I find to the article when I find it. Andise1 (talk) 08:10, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, I know this doesn't mean much, but their video for "To Be With You" has over 11,000,000 views on YouTube, so I don't know if the term "local" applies here. Andise1 (talk) 08:15, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If the number of views has a third party source, then it would be notable. On the sources, the live-review on the Highwire blog unfortunately only serves to confirm that the band were local. StGA is a similar blog type review site. The substream link gives me a 404 error. The slug review is good, but very short. The items from Paste and Esquire are about a single and both read as if they were taken from a press release. That leaves us with a good, but short AV Club review, a decent review on Performer and a good one in Exclaim!. The Ghettoblaster interview is useful too but I do wonder if this is the only interview that is available? Also, might it be be an idea to include something on the subsequent careers of both musicians since 2014? That would add a degree of notability. Karst (talk) 11:17, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I removed the blogspot link and added another reliable source about their full-length album. I also fixed the Substream link (it's an archive version, and a fairly in-depth article). I will also continue adding information with reliable sources as I find them. I think this is a case of working on expansion rather than deletion. Andise1 (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. SwiftyPeep (talk) 09:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. SwiftyPeep (talk) 09:28, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   14:54, 7 February 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:33, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sources establish the facts in the article plus some limited notablity. The band is defunct so there's no burden placed on editors to keep this up to date so I think it's adding value to the encyclopedia without cost. Mortee (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.