Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Inner Circle (album)


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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

The Inner Circle (album)

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Fails WP:NALBUM. The coverage that I found of this album appears to mostly consist of passing mentions, not satisfying the "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." of criterion #1. There has been no evidence that it charted to pass #2 either; checking with sverigetopplistan returns no relevant results. The SandDoctor Talk 04:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC); updated 17:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: Notable album by a notable band. Heiko Gerber (talk) 17:00, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Expanded rationale. There is no evidence for an individual article on this album. -- The SandDoctor Talk 17:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge all albums to Evergrey discography. The track listings can be condensed into collapsed templates there. BD2412  T 19:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to this. -- The SandDoctor Talk 03:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per Heiko Gerber. I found some reliable sources which talk about the album:, , , , , , and . With these, the album is good enough to pass WP:NALBUM.  ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * seaoftranquility appears to be a forum post(?) in a source of questionable notability that is barely 4 paragraphs long is not a reliable source per WP:ALBUMAVOID (updated 04:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC) based on new info)
 * metal-temple Though the site itself is of potentially questionable notability (also not listed at WP:RSP), this is the first source with any depth whatsoever, though only half of it actually talks of the album at all
 * theprogmind is only used in 2 articles on Wikipedia as a reference and it itself does not have an article, which brings its reliability into concern for me.
 * metalreviews is not a source that I am very familiar with, but they are not listed in WP:RSP nor have an article on Wikipedia. This does concern me when it comes to reliability. Putting that aside for a moment, it is a rather short review but one nonetheless.
 * metalstorm.net is a short review in a metalstorm.net questionable source without an article nor mentioned at WP:RSP. is an unreliable source in this instance per WP:MUSICRS due to the fact that it is pre 2009
 * metal-archives is an unreliable source, as explicitly listed at WikiProject Metal
 * dprp.net it reads like a fan website, is a community zine without a Wikipedia article, and isn't listed in WP:RSP. Ignoring that for a second, in the wider scope of the page linked, it is but a trivial mention and calls itself an interview(?). If the latter is the case, then it would be even more definitively off the table for establishing notability.
 * AllMusic is a decent source, though a shorter review than I would like to see.
 * Overall, this album appears to run into problems with WP:NOTINHERETED, WP:NRV, and a general lack of non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable publications. -- The SandDoctor Talk 04:04, 15 October 2020 (UTC); updated given new info re WP:ALBUMAVOID's existence 04:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


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