Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science


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The result was   delete. WP:FRINGE group with no support in reliable sources. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 09:40, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

The International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

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No indication of notability in independent reliable sources (specifically, no indication of notability in non-fringe sources) a13ean (talk) 15:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * A related page which I don't have time to AfD at the moment is The International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science Prizes. a13ean (talk) 15:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment. A cold fusion front but could be notable as a fringe science organization. Sources are not too great. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC).


 * Delete Non-notable organization. All sources are also very poor; nothing worth merging IRWolfie- (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The prize page is also non-notable due to lack of significant coverage in reliable sources, IRWolfie- (talk) 09:46, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge with other related pages, eg International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science (referenced from Cold Fusion ) and The International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science Prizes. As long as there is ANY article on CF, and as long as there is strong support by notable organisations, eg University of Missouri, which is officially hosting their 2013 conference --- it merits continuation. (I agree it needs editing).  Alanf777 (talk) 20:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, and a few fringe / unknown organisations participating in an ICCF18 workshop : ENEA http://old.enea.it/com/ingl/default.htm, University of Missouri, NRL and SRI are cooperating within the frame of an International Project supported by the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Joint Declaration following the 10th Review Conference on Scientific and Technological Cooperation between Italy and the United States of America for the years 2011-2013). The research field is on Metal Hydrogen Systems for Energy Applications.  http://iccf18.research.missouri.edu/enea_workshop.php  Alanf777 (talk) 20:55, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Although Prof Yeong Kim of  Purdue University is co-chair, Purdue is not an official sponsor. ENIA and National Instruments are now listed as Partners. http://iccf18.research.missouri.edu/


 * Merge -- Cold fusion is apparently fringe science. It would seem that the society was formed out of the first ICCF, and is probably organising the subsequent ones.  Participation from non-fringe bodies suggests that this is not completely fringe, perhaps because the objective (if achievable) is so desirable.  However, we only need one article, and I would suggest that the others named by Alanf777 should be merged here.  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:43, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * ICCF is a fringe group, asserting it is not (and CF then by extension) is really a bit of an exceptional claim. The sources are poor, so there is nothing worth merging. IRWolfie- (talk)


 * Delete: Lack of substantial coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. The material in the article is supported entirely by unreliable fringe sources, and there is sufficient reason to doubt the accuracy of what they report. I don't see anything that is reliably sourced enough to be merged. My own search for sources turned up nothing significant or promising. In fact, I have seen no credible evidence that this "organization" is anything but a single person with a fax machine. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 16:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I can find even LESS information about the "International Society for the Study of Diseases of the Colon and Rectum" (A total of 31 googled links). Is it incorporated? Where? Who are its directors? Members? The history of the ISCMNS is documented on their website http://www.iscmns.org/index.htm. It was incorporated in the UK 2004 and registered as a charity in 2006 : as part of that process it was specifically recognized as an International  organization. It currently lists 212 members of whom I count 81 as belonging to a University, a government organization or a well-known company. http://www.iscmns.org/admin/list_of_members.htm (although not all have paid this years' dues). Alanf777 (talk) 22:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but why were you talking about a different society (the rectum one)? I also don't see the relevance of the rest of the ISCNMNS self-published claims, being registered as a charity in the UK is hardly particularly difficult or noteworthy. IRWolfie- (talk) 23:12, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:05, 12 April 2013 (UTC)




 * Comment Two weeks into the AfD, and I still see nothing that is supported by independent reliable sources. Still see nothing worth merging to any other article. I confirm my previous !vote to delete the article. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 00:02, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient secondary sources. PianoDan (talk) 17:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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