Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The L Word plot summaries


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 02:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The L Word (season 1)
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 * The L Word (season 2)
 * The L Word (season 3)

Delete - Wikipedia articles are not plot summaries and these are seasonal plot summaries. Otto4711 18:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per pure plot summary and a violation of WP:NOT Corpx 19:03, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I am going to vote to delete, but I would vote to keep detailed episode by episode summaries and reserve the right to change my vote with that in mind.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Confused Why do we have List of The Sopranos episodes and are targeting a different show for deletion? -- su mn ji m  talk with me·changes 20:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * List of Sopranos episodes is indeed a list of episodes, with airdates and other relevant real-world information about each episode in addition to have a bit of plot summary for each episode. This article on the other hand is entirely a desciption of what happened plot-wise in that season, with no real-world information included, which fails WP:NOT. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 20:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge/Rewrite somewhere, and perhaps transwiki to Wikia:Annex 132.205.44.5 21:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and add real world context a few paragraphs to describe a 13 episode season is not unreasonable. If context could be found for the Sopranos, I have no doubt it could be found here. Add a tag that says "needs context" --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 01:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep seasonal plot summaries. How can the subject be talked about at all without describing the plot? These could be seen as subpages, though we don't organize things as subpages--the individual parts don't need the same amount of discussion as the overall subject, but they support the general discussion.  If I do not know of the show, and want to find out, this is what tells me what it actually was. I think getting rid of individual episode articles was a good thing, but I am not sure i would have supported it had I realised that these too would be suggested for deletion.  The advocates of removal of plot material are over-reaching. DGG (talk) 00:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Clean it up, give brief synopses for each episode of that season. Provide real world content, with reliable sources. Drop that "Goofs" section, as that's unencyclopedic. We aren't here to point out continuity errors, take that stuff to IMDb.com. On the plus side, at least it isn't riddled with images, as I've seen on some pages.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  00:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strike that. Delete - I just walked over to List of The L Word episodes, and this does a pretty good job of "summarizing" all the plots from all the episodes in the entire series. These season pages now seem like way to write up more details that couldn't be placed in the other article. Too much. I still say clean up those plots, and add real world content to that article, but these three season articles now seem redundant to a page that already contains just about the same information.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  01:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge Or, unless merging is not a valid !vote, Delete. I would be rather loath to do anything to this article pending the various discussions on how things should proceed with episode articles. However, I can see no reason for this to be seperate from the section on the various seasons in the main article. As such, merge it. I   (said)  (did) 01:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete&mdash;main article already summarizes the plot enough. &mdash; Deckiller 04:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, or merge if you have to. It has more than plot summaries, it has a section on goofs and mistakes. I am not at all interested, but why must this information be removed? It's rather long to merge into the main article, so better: keep. [[Image:Smile-tpvgames.gif]] &#151; Xiutwel (talk) 11:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What purpose is a "goofs" section? They are the first thing to go in an FAC if they happen to be on the page, since they are rather unencyclopedic. That's IMDb type information. As for the size of the plots, the main article summarizes each season, and if you go to the LOE page that I linked above, each episode has a rather decent sized summary of itself, which if you put all the episodes together is much larger summary that these pages. That's why I changed my initial choice "keep" to a "delete", because everything here is redundant to what is on two other pages.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Goofs section is pure trivia Corpx 15:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep, reasonably detailed and too large to merge into the parent article. Could probably be comfortably merged into List of The L Word episodes, but AfD has nothing to do with that. &mdash;Xezbeth 08:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * delete per Bignole. I feel plot summaries are acceptable if the articles are developed enough to be encyclopedic, and if an interested Wikipedia reader would find them useful - that's my rationalization for not AfDing 3000 Simpsons articles - but, as Bignole says, a much better complete article is already in existence at List of The L Word episodes. So, delete as redundant. PS Jenny was cute, though insane. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 19:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete plot summary arguments aside, the article is unsourced and would appear to be original research. SamBC 19:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.