Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Leaving Trains


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The result was keep. John254 00:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The Leaving Trains

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Arguably not speedy, but the claim to notability is very much borderline. Independent band published under an independent label only, but with a fair number of records. As it stands, the article falls short of WP:BAND, and has a single blog source; but someone with more pointed topic knowledge might be able to salvage it.

Disclaimer: I have speedied, then restored the article after another admin had done the same leaving the tag on. &mdash; Coren (talk) 03:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Xymmax  So let it be written   So let it be done  04:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added, as otherwise the article does not comply with the requirements of the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 15:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Author Comment The source cited is not a blog; it's the All Music Guide, which is the most comprehensive online music database in existence. It is a legitimate third-party source which complies entirely with WP:V. Furthermore, the group had not one, not two, but eight full-length releases and two EPs on the independent SST Records, which is one of the most important record labels of the 1980s (home of, for example, Black Flag, The Minutemen, Hüsker Dü, the Meat Puppets, Sonic Youth, and Dinosaur Jr). That's a whale of a way to pass WP:MUSIC. Chubbles (talk) 16:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've struck out the note about the single source being a blog after reexamination: I was mislead by the page heading "The Allmusic Blog" without noticing that this was advertisement for said blog.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 17:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets WP:MUSIC by virtue of the many releases on SST, "two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels". --Stormie (talk) 10:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - multiple releases on a significant indpendent label -- Whpq (talk) 13:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep for the reasons detailed above, plus I have found some reliable sources here and here, so by my reckoning they meet both #1 and #5 of WP:MUSIC. sparkl!sm hey! 07:26, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


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