Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Libel Tourist


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The result was   keep. v/r - TP 16:36, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

The Libel Tourist

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Non-notable short film film lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance, Included references do not appear to be significant enough to support notability. Appears to fail WP:NOTFILM. red dog six (talk) 03:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment &mdash; This is a very tough call. To start with, I'm not so sure this fails WP:NOTFILM. There is at least one review of the short documentary, although the author of that article does not appear to be particularly notable. Then you have this, which I'm not sure is an actual article or a personal blog; either way, this commentator actually is notable. Otherwise, I'm just not sure. A part of me is inclined to support keeping the article as a borderline case despite arguably not fully meeting Wikipedia's film notability guidelines.  Master&amp;  Expert  ( Talk ) 13:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * On second thought, the director doesn't even have his own article (as of this posting). I don't know if we should include an article about a documentary when its director is not considered notable.  Master&amp;  Expert ( Talk ) 13:50, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete. I found it a tough call.  Sounds like a well made 8 minute film, but if it was aired as a 30 minute TV programme, it would never be considered encyclopedic, so I'd favour deletion.  If it had meatier critical acclaim I might change my mind. --Legis (talk - contribs) 03:55, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Per enough sourcability for an 8-minute short film to meet WP:NF and WP:GNG. Apart from the sources in the article, the film's website offers links to more that might be considered. The article can expand upon current sources, and use a few more.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Thanks to all for your input so far. If the issue is finding reviews, then perhaps the "critical reception" section could be tagged for expansion to get some more 3rd party reviews found and added by other editors. I, too, will continue to expand it as I find more info.  If the issue is notability of the filmmakers involved, I know that the writer/director directed (to my knowledge) at least one other notable film, Over da Rainbow, credited there as "Jay Lap"; i.e., he is probably notable enough to have his own page (and I may work on that in the future) - and I believe that this film would constitute a significant work of his as per WP:NF.  But perhaps most importantly, I believe there's a lot more to be said about this film, and I think it may get expanded as users read it and feel the urge to contribute (Article's OP) Zujua (talk) 01:59, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep- National Review review is significant coverage, especially for an 8 minute film. PPdd (talk) 05:32, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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