Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Lickets (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Following the thread here is a little confusing, but if you walk through the history (especially,, you'll obeserve that the comments signed "Mitch Greer" and those signed "Spaceagecrystal" are really the same user. Treating this as "nomination withdrawn by proposer". -- RoySmith (talk) 01:40, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

The Lickets
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I would like to nominate this page for deletion, or some kind of modification. I am one of the members of this band and I wrote most of the content in 2008. It isn’t accurate to describe the band this way, since it ignores the previous history and later history of the band and was mostly made in late 2008 with a misunderstanding of the intent and nature of wikipedia. Also, one of the core criticisms of the page seems to be that the tone or style does not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on wikipedia, which I absolutely agree with.

It was nominated and survived a deletion request, and contributors have added to it, but it is still inaccurate. The only other solution would be to edit the content to account for the previous 8 years to 2009, and the last 6 years of this project, and with my understanding of wikipedia now, I think it’s inappropriate for a member of the band to update it. Mitch Greer (talk) 04:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  04:55, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * Note to closing admin: Per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, if there is no consensus after standard listing periods (including relists), then this discussion may be closed as delete. Mz7 (talk) 02:38, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 02:38, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

 I still think that this should come down, but I think my original intention in making this page was simple playfulness, being excited about the band, but also to try to assert that sources of information like independent radio, blogs and independent journals can bypass mainstream critical and social validation often achieved through marketing. There aren't any sources that cover music like Sound Projector, Textura, Freak Zone, college radio, and things like Lost at E Minor, and these have been the only places the Lickets, and many, many other projects have had any support. Mitch Greer (talk) 23:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC) If fixing is an option, that would of course be ideal, but since so much of it (all of it from what I can tell at a glance) was generated by one of the subjects it would probably be best to start from scratch, not only to adjust the tone but to correct details that really only a band member would know. Apologies if this formatting isn't correct, I'm still very new to wikipedia. Mitch Greer (talk) 04:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, I guess. It's an unusual request, and general practice for an outdated or inaccurate article is to fix it, not delete it.  But that said, an unusual request is not an unreasonable one, it seems a harmless request and the band's notability is borderline, so I think we should do the decent thing and honor the request. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  03:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok, so based on the feedback from Andrew Lenahan with the suggestion to fix it, I'm going to go ahead and update it to reflect the current and past history of the band. Spaceagecrystal (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Updated. It's now accurate and I believe the tone is appropriate now, so I withdraw my desire to delete the page, but if this isn't acceptable I absolutely understand. Thanks so much. Spaceagecrystal (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Since it has been extensively rewritten by Spaceagecrystal walk victor falktalk 01:53, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.