Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Light Bearer (2nd nomination)


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The result was nomination withdrawn following improvements to the article‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Ouro (blah blah) 19:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

The Light Bearer
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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:NBOOK or WP:GNG. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve this. Was AfD'd in 2006 and kept, but standards were then significantly lower. Boleyn (talk) 15:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and History. Owen&times;  &#9742;  16:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete did not find any refs --PeaceNT (talk) 02:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC) Changed to keep per below. I was concerned about the Publishers Weekly source as it is a trade magazine, but not a big issue, and the new added sources look great. Meet notability. --PeaceNT (talk) 04:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Why are you not counting the two existing independent reviews already present as citations in the article? Publisher's Weekly has one; this syndicated review originating in the Washington Post is another. Doesn't that meet WP:NBOOK? Toughpigs (talk) 04:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I also added a third review from Kirkus Reviews. Toughpigs (talk) 04:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing dead link and adding refs!--PeaceNT (talk) 04:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Withdraw nomination per excellent points above. Thanks for your work on this, Boleyn (talk) 08:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. Was tempted to close but there is still an entire section that is unreferenced or at least it is unclear where these things come from. --Ouro (blah blah) 12:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ouro: Having unreferenced material on a page doesn't matter for notability, see WP:SURMOUNTABLE. The only thing that matters for AfD is whether enough sources exist to indicate whether the subject is notable or not. It doesn't actually make a difference in this case because the OP withdrew the nomination, just FYI for future cases. Toughpigs (talk) 17:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Toughpigs: Thank You for this information. I kinda suspected as much, but erred on the side of caution. Cheers and thanks! --Ouro (blah blah) 19:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


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