Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Luchagors


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

The Luchagors

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Contested prod; reasoning supported a merge, but contestor did not perform or request said merge. This article does not meet WP:BAND and violates WP:NOTINHERITED. The band meets none of the criteria from items 2-10 of the BAND policy - the album they released was done as a digital self-release, did not chart, and there are no notable musicians in the band. They have won no awards, are not a prominent representative of their genre, and have done no work for any major media. As for criteria 1 - some interviews and articles do exist, but they tend to focus more one the fact that the singer (Amy Dumas) was a former pro wrestler. Coverage on the band and its music otherwise is trivial, being mainly performance announcements for local clubs. The band is therefore not notable as a band, but because of its association with Amy Dumas as a wrestler (not as a musician). MSJapan (talk) 17:37, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 18:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Amy Dumas: I think this could be merged along with the article about there one album, into her article.-- Navy Blue84  17:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep (Note: I voted keep for The Luchagors (album), where I believe I've established coverage in reliable and independent sources.) Here are some references. We're not in any position to make judgement or assertions on why the band has received press coverage, simply that they are. They have been covered in multiple, independent, reliable sources, and therefore meet our notability criteria. This article needs to be expanded instead of discussed. - Theornamentalist (talk) 16:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment in addition to Amy Dumas, the drummer Racci Shay has been in several notable bands (ex: Dope), and they have toured internationally and not just locally. - Theornamentalist (talk) 22:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: That will need to be supported - Shay's article claims an unbroken career from 2001 to present in Genitorturers, then Dope, and currently Murderdolls. If he was session or touring only for Luchagors, he doesn't count as an official member of the band, because that's just the way it goes. MSJapan (talk) 06:18, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment he is listed as the drummer for The Luchagors on their official page "On February 11, 2009, the band welcomed their new drummer Racci Shay Hart." I have no idea if this is the only band he is in, but there is no policy that says a musician can only be in one band at a time... or else it doesn't count. Anyway that is only further support, coverage of the Luchagors is significant by itself. - Theornamentalist (talk) 15:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:04, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.