Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Men's Room (radio program) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   '''delete. Despite several WP:ILIKEIT comments from IPs, policy does not support the continued inclusion of this article'''. - Philippe 02:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The Men's Room (radio program)
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Insufficiently sourced - references appear to be self-referential. In the absence of a good dose of old fashioned reliable sourcing this article appears to fail on both verifiability and notability Spartaz Humbug! 17:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC) Spartaz Humbug! 17:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Most of the sources are unreliable (YouTube, MySpace, etc.), and the few that are reliable are just trivial in nature. Fails WP:RS then, it seems. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 17:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with TenPoundHammer that none of the sources are reliable, all either from social networking sites, the station itself or very, verybrief mentions in local newspapers. Therefore it fails WP:RS. Not all morning drive shows are notable, in fact very few are. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 17:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete There are 2 references to the Seattle Post Intelligencer but my concern with this article is it's notability. The show is in a large market and I'm sure is very popular but it's still a local radio show.  Some sort of recognition outside this market would change my mind.  A significant award or syndication outside of the local market. Even being named to the Heavy 100 would indicate some notability.  Not every show in a large market is notable.  The images also have copyright concerns.  --Rtphokie (talk) 18:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, strictly a local radio show. Not notable. KleenupKrew (talk) 10:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete, the cast of the show and the radio station have all reviewed the article on air and agreeded with it. If you guys want to hear them talking about it, I can send you guys the podcast. The cast of the show feel that they deserve this article and have talked to wikipedia spokesperson and that spokesperson has said that they had enough evidence to have an article on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.126.49 (talk) 10:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete,
 * the station broadcasts the show live via their website, meaning it can be heard worldwide
 * the show has also discussed the Wikipedia article on-air several times. It was because of the popularity of the show that the article almost immediately received numerous updates from fans of the show.
 * numerous times per weeks, people who have been listening online have written to the show from different countries across the world, including England, Japan, Australia, and France.
 * The show has been consistently getting top-5 ratings in the Seattle area that they broadcast out of since they began on KISW-FM in 2006. Before that, the same was true on the previous station, KQBZ-FM.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.7.199 (talk) 23:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Show is notable for it is broadcasted on internet live around the world and many listener's from various countries across the globe write expressing their pleasure of hearing the program. It is also broadcasted on a huge local, being the entire state of Washington, not just Seattle.--Machineking1313 (talk) 06:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - The podcast is downloaded from around the world and the market which it is broadcasted on is the entire Seattle area. The show is also on one of the premier rock stations in the USA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.32.16 (talk) 22:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete
 * many of the referenced YouTube videos in question are direct, on air performance, proving the shows ability to remediate itself through different outlets
 * the wiki in question was discussed on air with Wikipedia staff, which noted that the second major edition (current edition) of the Wikipedia met guidelines and had sufficient evidence to prove both notability and worth to the Wikipedia community
 * the show holds a large market share via radio broadcast in one of the largest rock radio markets in the country, the very same market that spawned many of the bands played during the shows afternoon time slot
 * also worth noting is that Steve, Miles, Thee Ted Smith, and Ben are not just disc jockeys as are popular on other stations. The show has a hybrid talk, news, and music format, which makes them Seattle/Western Washington personalities, more so than just DJs. They host events throughout the Seattle and greater Puget Sound area, and are recognizable beyond the radio.
 * the show survived station change, time change, and format change (from 100.7 KQBZ-FM to 99.9 KISW-fm) with much of its original audience intact, as well as adding the replaced Tom Leykis listeners, and more Seattle radio fans — Cougrrr (talk) 21:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: of the three Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports (there are three, not two), one contains a paragraph about the show, and the other two mention the show in bullet-points.  69.140.152.55 (talk) 00:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 13:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

It is a very good show to listen to. VERY original!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.52.185 (talk) 05:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)