Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Messmer Experience


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

The Messmer Experience

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Unreferenced television show with unclear notability. Attempted to draftify but was reverted. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  01:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  01:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  01:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete and/or redraftify with page-move protection to prevent the creator from moving the page again. Television shows are not handed an automatic notability freebie just because they exist — an article about a television show has to be referenced to reliable source coverage in media to establish its notability, and is not inherently entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because it exists. And furthermore, Wikipedia's article creation process does not include the page creator simply moving the page from draftspace to mainspace themselves when it's still in an inadequate and unreferenced state — article creators have to submit their draft to the WP:AFC process for review, and are not unconditionally entitled to bypass that process. Obviously no prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can write and reference a proper article, but it isn't acceptable in its current form. Additionally, per Sockpuppet investigations/20kids the creator has been blocked for sockpuppeteering. Bearcat (talk) 14:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Technically, the account that moved the page from Draft: was blocked. The page was created by a non-logged-in editor.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs) 🎄  17:44, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.