Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Michael Brooks Show


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The only users arguing to keep are a sock, the article's author, and somebody with an extremely small editing history. More to the point, none of them made any policy-based arguments why this should be kept. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

The Michael Brooks Show

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Non-notable podcast. Doesn't past WP:GNG or WP:WEB Sources are pretty much youtube, twitter and other social media links, or articles that aren't talking about the podcast itself. Couldn't find any significant coverage on web either. Questionable notability for the host's article as well, but podcast I definitely don't think passes our notability guidelines. WikiVirusC (talk) 13:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. WikiVirusC (talk) 13:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. WikiVirusC <b style="color:#008000">(talk)</b> 13:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. <b style="color:#000080; font-family:Tahoma">WikiVirus</b><u style="font-family: Tahoma">C <b style="color:#008000">(talk)</b> 13:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is ridiculous. This is a significant podcast with over 1000 supporters on Patreon, and substantially more subscribers and viewers. A cursory review of the pages sources show more than social media sources. This recommendation is without basis.- Citationsaurus (talk) 15:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Patreon supporters or subscribers/viewers do not contribute to notability on their own. I did review the sources, and a lot of the non social media/podcast links are simply links to biographies of the guest, and like I said in nomination, don't even talk about the podcast itself.
 * Also, as I mentioned on your talk page, please in the future, don't simply create an account and blank an afD page. These need to stay up for the duration of the process, and then an admin will close it when the time comes. Thank you <b style="color:#000080; font-family:Tahoma">WikiVirus</b><u style="font-family: Tahoma">C <b style="color:#008000">(talk)</b> 15:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - although the podcast has a somewhat substantial following, it fails WP:GNG. --Kirbanzo (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per nom. Please note, Citationsaurus is a sock account set up purely for the purpose of contesting this AfD. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:11, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - I am a new editor on here and I made the page in question as I felt it would be better served as a separate page than as an add on to my original page article, I am willing to change this and just add to the original article which is more than adequately sourced for notability if this is what the consensus of editors agree. I am new and am trying to take on board all criticism and have taken the past week to review the guidelines stated.  I do feel I meet them, I have included sources to back up the notability, sources from a variety of different places, obviously because of the nature of it being an online podcast, some of the sources are going to be only online ones too.  This is a fairly new podcast but one that is growing quickly and is already significant in terms of audience, I am writing as a fan not in any paid interest or link to the show.  I am willing to keep improving the article and have more sources to now add to it as citations and will continue to take on board any constructive comments.  Thank you.  Claireliontamer (talk) 17:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Killiondude (talk) 06:06, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete We're not a WP:FANPAGE host, which is what this article reads as. What the hell is the pyramid and is being sent there bad? Why do I have to pay more to listen to a 'post-game' part of the show? Why is there a part of this podcast that's only available to paid subscribers? It isn't on the radio, and 1,000 Patreon supporters isn't getting anywhere near what even a brokered Sunday morning polka show on radio gets as far as listenership. GNG is far from passed here, and since the podcast seems to be a loss leader to get people to buy the paywall stuff, this show isn't easily accesible enough to gain GNG or N any time soon.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 06:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a well-sourced article about a podcast with regular listeners. The article can most certainly be edited towards more neutral language where it may be necessary. Those who believe the article should be deleted on this basis would best be reminded that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anybody can edit. Onetwothreeip (talk) 09:55, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Michael J. Brooks, which is currently pretty scrawny as biographies go. bd2412  T 21:35, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.