Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Mike Sherman Show


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The result was keep. John254 00:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The Mike Sherman Show

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Notability. This TV show does not stand out from any other and is not notable enough for an encyclopaedia article WebHamster 10:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Even though it may not stand out, but some of the links in that page do give the significant coverage required Corpx 15:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep There is no requirement for TV shows, or anything else, to "stand out" to have an article. "Standing out" is a purely subjective criterion, and therefore unusable. Piccadilly 19:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Response - I was using "stand out" as a simile of "notability", they basically mean the same thing. Neither the show nor the show's host has received any industry awards or anything similar (or haven't been mentioned in the article). Mentions in articles similar to those referenced are de rigeur for any TV show (multimedia announces multimedia etc) so in themselves are nothing notable other than successful marketing. Is WP to become a TV guide for any programme that has a few thousand viewers? WebHamster 21:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You got to love WP's sarcastic attitude. They seem to think that they have a say over who is notable and who is not in the media world. Get a life WP. You ain't all that.
 * Keep Webhamster, why do you say "a few thousand viewers" on 18 Aug above, when the day before (17 Aug) on the discussion page of The Mike Sherman Show, you said "100,000s of viewers is small-fry in the world of TV." You're obviously not a fan of hip-hop but why are you trying so hard to stop the programme from having a WP entry? The fact is, the show had 300,000 weekly viewers over 2 years ago  and Mike is currently in talks to syndicate his show all over the US and internationally so its popularity is obviously growing.  I also looked through the Category:Hip_hop_television and found only one other TV show listed still broadcasting that is doing something similar (Rap City (TV series)) so the show is rather rare whilst hip-hop is "among best-selling genres of music" (quote taken from hiphopgenrebox on hip-hop).  Therefore, according to the rules of Speedy Keep where "A page may be speedily kept only if one or more of the following holds: 1. No-one other than the nominator recommends that the page be deleted...", which is the case as far as I can tell, can The Mike Sherman Show be speedily kept, or at least taken off the articles for deletion list?Johnalexwood 01:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
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