Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Mississippi Rag


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Ragtime. Tone 10:43, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

The Mississippi Rag

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Non-notable magazine that does not meet WP:N or WP:GNG nor does it have any references or sources, let alone any significant coverage to note. Dr42 (talk) 06:58, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Dr42 (talk) 06:58, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Dr42 (talk) 06:58, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Dr42 (talk) 06:58, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - Note that another editor has added some sources since the Afd was created. A search of Google Books finds that articles from this magazine are often used to verify research on the history of ragtime and its performers. I submit that this qualifies for notability for an old publication under WP:DEFUNCTNEWS, which says "a more common sense approach which considers whether the periodical has been widely cited or written about." The article does need to be cleaned up however. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:40, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ragtime. Based on the book source, a mention and a redirect in the main article on the magazine's role in ragtime revival would be appropriate. Otherwise, delete. As for standalone notability, the book does not go into any depth, The Syncopated Times is unreliable (no reputation for fact-checking or accuracy), and if all that can be found on the paper is some details in a local obituary of the publisher, that's not significant coverage. The publisher's article could be a redirect target too but that's going to end up deleted. (not watching, please )  czar  03:03, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 10:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ragtime. 's suggestion is useful as the relevance of this newspaper is on the research field which it documented; I have added a paragraph with the discussed references into that page. (Some mention at Trad_jazz might also be useful, not least to reduce the anglo-centrism of that article, but that would need specific refs.) AllyD (talk) 10:05, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * However, see the discussion which another editor has opened at Talk:Ragtime regarding this proposal. AllyD (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Ragtime is the most appropriate alternative to deletion at this point in time. A quick check of the sources verifies in-depth findings. ~ riley  (  talk  ) 11:15, 16 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.