Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Money Masters/Old nomination


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Bizarre adventure. The AfD is being closed many years later, because it was never properly closed back then, because it was never visible, because it was never transcluded on any of the daily logpages. Technically, it has still been open this whole time.

Nobody else could ever be admitted here, because this door was made only for you. I am now going to shut it. (non-admin closure) jp×g 22:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Old nomination

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 * The Money Masters&mdash;not important enough to warrant an encyclopedia article in itself. I perceive it as an effort to promote this documentary and, indirectly, its point of view. Dpbsmith 13:37, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * Agree -- Delete. -- The Anome 14:14, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Who do you think you are to decide this and that movie or documentary is not known-enough for wikipedia? IMDB score? It's source for- and information package for people wandering into fractional-reserve banking. I've made it initially into a stub, but I'm planning to extend it to mention the issues it covers. Would removing the external link make you happy in the mean time or should I remove the quote that I did not include in the first place? Finlander 14:51, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * OK, I looked for it on imdb and couldn't find it at all. Where is it? Closest thing I could find was a 1915 silent movie, a drama called "The Money Master" which is characterized as a "drama" and no description other than "keywords: ambition, anarchist, based-on-play, industrialist, moral-reformation, new-york-city, nurse, poverty, revenge" Dpbsmith 15:05, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is not in the imdb and I didn't say it is (does imdb cover documents?). Finlander 15:23, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * 36,074 of them, by their count. Dpbsmith 19:19, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * You might like to review the changes I made to the page and also, as you so allege that I'm advertising a small time document for my own benefit and not because it seems to be recognized and also I personally found it very enjoyable and informative, check out the &quot;Reviews and Comments&quot; page on the document's homepage and you will see that it has been recognized by several institutions, economic magazines and publishers and whatnot. Finlander 15:23, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge with another article (but I can't suggest any atm). I see no reason to delete this article. It seems encyclopedic to me and the production named "Money Masters" and the concept it discusses are well-known among people who study similar topics. It is possible that somebody may search wikipedia for this thing, so we should list it, as long as it does not cause any harm to Wikipedia and its readers (and as it is now, it doesn't). However, I have no problem to merge the contents with another page if you think this is better, but certainly do not delete. Optim 17:58, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * Three issues here - Is it advertising? Is it NPOV? Is it important enough for a Wikipedia article? The link is to a Web site that has a page that advertises the product, but this is not serious enough for deletion IMO. The article is a bit NPOV but this could be fixed easily enough. Is this documentary more important than hundred of other documentaries that can be seen on the History channel, PBS, BBC, etc.? Probably not. So how high do we set the bar when decideing whether an article is warranted? We have articles on Star Trek episodes, episodes of childrens show, chapters of books, verses of the Bible. If this is where we set the bar then the documentary should stay. - Keep, unless we are prepared to consistently implement a tighter inclusion policy. mydogategodshat 03:06, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2022 October 17.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 22:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.