Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Munsif Daily


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 13:35, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

The Munsif Daily

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP, no sourcing, only external link to their own website. Waggie (talk) 03:36, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:08, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:09, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Per Journalism, Democracy and Civil Society in India, this is the highest circulation newspaper in Urdu in India. Andrew D. (talk) 09:50, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Andrew, thanks for your reply. Google Books isn't allowing me to see what that page contains, but Wikipedia articles are supposed to be summaries of what multiple reliable sources say on a topic. If there isn't coverage in multiple reliable sources, then there isn't content to summarize for an article. Waggie (talk) 04:10, 28 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NMEDIA and WP:GNG. WP:NCORP is of indirect relevance at best so I did not check. Please nominate wisely! gidonb (talk) 16:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your interest, ! As mentioned at the Sambad AfD, NCORP is of relevance as a corporation, but could you please clarify how you feel The Munsif Daily meets NMEDIA? Waggie (talk) 16:12, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:VAGUEWAVE. &#x222F; WBG converse 13:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Waggie, single newspapers are typically more notable as newspapers than as corporations. Sometimes their publishers publish or broadcast many media channels. Hence WP:NCORP should be of the least concern. Widely distributed newspapers are typically notable, however. Exceptions to this rule are newspapers that mostly contain advertisements. Per Paper Boy: The Munsif Daily is published from Hyderabad, India, and is also the highest circulated Urdu newspaper in this area. The Audit Bureau of Circulation has certified that this newspaper has a circulation of around 60,009 copies per day. Per Two Circles In 2011 Hyderabad based newspaper ‘Munsif’, which is the largest circulated Urdu newspaper of the country[,] launched its news channel whereas Mumbai based Urdu Times will launch its print editions from Delhi and Lucknow shortly. As Andrew pointed out above, the newspaper is a returning topic in Journalism, Democracy and Civil Society in India, edited by Shakuntala Rao, Vipul Mudgal. This book was well accessible at my end! gidonb (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of newspapers in India.Nothing except the statistical fact that it's the highest circulation Urdu daily in India. &#x222F; WBG converse 13:32, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * and, I think that The Munsif Daily can qualify WP:NMEDIA's sixth fifth criterion, in that it has the highest circulation among Urdu-language newspapers in India, as Urdu can be considered a niche market, I am not too sure about this, though. Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 08:34, 2 October 2018 (UTC); edited 05:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC) and 09:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC).
 * I have strong reservations against treating Urdu as a niche language in the country. &#x222F; WBG converse 10:25, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , oh, no, Urdu definitely is a major language; I am just saying that Urdu-language newspapers aren't all that common and definitely don't have as wide a circulation as, say, Hindi-language newspapers. That is probably so because people in North India—even those who have a decent understanding of Urdu—tend to read either English or Hindi-medium newspapers. And, in Telangana and Andhra Pradesh (states having a significant Urdu-speaking minority, as a result of the reign of the Nizam of Hyderabad), one would think of Telugu as the dominant language, in mass media and otherwise. Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 02:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC); edited 02:26, 3 October 2018 (UTC).
 * SshibumXZ, can you be more specific what you mean by, WP:NMEDIA's sixth criterion? The Newspapers, magazines and journals section has a list that only goes up to five.  -- RoySmith (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * oops! I meant the fifthy criterion for notability mentioned in WP:NMEDIA (the news section of it, to be a bit more exact). — Preceding unsigned comment added by SshibumXZ (talk • contribs) 05:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC); edited 05:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC) and 02:23, 23 October 2018 (UTC).

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:08, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Is there not an Indian editor who can add sources and clean up the article? Looks like a big enough organisation that should be able to pass WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Govvy (talk) 11:01, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Both me and Sshibum are from India:-) &#x222F; WBG converse 07:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC
 * Ouch! -The Gnome (talk) 12:20, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong keep A newspaper having the largest vernacular circulation in India should have its page in an Encyclopedia. Per WP:NMEDIA#5, added with the fact that Urdu is a vernacular language in various states and not the national language, this should not be deleted. Lourdes   05:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep — Per my earlier comments on this page; basically, in my opinion, The Munsif Daily should qualify the fifth criterion of WP:NNEWSPAPER (newspaper sub-section of WP:NMEDIA). Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 05:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep on account of subject meeting criterion WP:MEDIA #5 for newspapers, which is enough on its own and without the need for further proof of notability. The newspaper is a significant publication in [an] ethnic and...non-trivial niche market. -The Gnome (talk) 07:00, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


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