Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Noble Houses of Taros


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was editorially merged and redirected. Debate is closed as moot, without comment on priority of the new parent article List of places in Total Annihilation: Kingdoms. Anyone may nominate that article at a new AfD, but discussion here is now pointless. Xoloz 23:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The Noble Houses of Taros

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This is a batch nomination of articles relating to minor aspects of the game Total Annihilation: Kingdoms, all created by as their only contributions. The game is notable in itself, but these minor aspects are completely irrelevent, and probably not even worth much of a mention in the main article. Delete as non-notable.

I am also nominating the following related pages:
 * – I am adding this one as it is no different from the rest; I hope you don't mind. -- Black Falcon 00:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this one as it is no different from the rest; I hope you don't mind. -- Black Falcon 00:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * – I am adding this rather late in the AFD, but this was the last of the articles created by and, as above, is no different from the rest (a short article about a minor character or place in TA:K that has been merged).  -- Black Falcon 21:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

J Milburn 11:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Possibily worth a side mention in the main article, but I doubt it.  Eliminator JR   Talk  14:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all subtrivial pseudoinformation. Wile E. Heresiarch 19:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge. (already performed) I was bold (perhaps overly so given the content of the articles) and merged all 12 articles into List of places in Total Annihilation: Kingdoms.  That seems more in line with WP:FICT point 2 -- lists of minor characters, places, concepts, etc.  Comments? -- Black Falcon 21:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Looks better already, but it could do with some work- sources, categories and especially completeness checks are musts. J Milburn 23:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I intend to perform further cleanup and look for sources (articles, game guides, etc.). However, as I did not even know about the game until this AfD, I will go ahead and request assistance on the talk page of Total Annihilation: Kingdoms.  -- Black Falcon 00:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FICT, these are all fiction, it belongs in the main article; if it doesn't fit, it's probably not separately notable. Carlossuarez46 00:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep as redirects to List of places in Total Annihilation: Kingdoms. --- RockMFR 00:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom or mention in an article on the main subject. Edison 01:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all per well-executed, coherent merge. Don't see the need for redirects, as search engine will pick up key words. Ohconfucius 02:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Redirects are cheap, no reason to delete if we agree that the information deserves to stay. J Milburn 16:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all as per WP:FICT 2 and 3. If it's notable it goes in the main article and Wikipedia's job is to summarize not give an entire detailed description of every area in a game. Chevinki 09:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Most of the comments above seem to note that the topics don't deserve separate articles (with which I agree).  So, I merged (maybe a little prematurely, but I still think it was a justified move per WP:FICT #2) all of the articles into List of places in Total Annihilation: Kingdoms.  All of the articles in this AFD are now R from merges to the main list, which I have organised based on two sources (noted at the bottom of the list), shortened to exclude some trivial information, and given a short summary at the start to clarify things.  I would argue that these articles (now redirects) should be kept as:
 * Redirects are cheap and most of these are plausible search terms; and
 * GFDL requires that the edit histories of merged content be preserved:
 * "The GFDL requires acknowledgement of all contributors, and editors continue to hold copyright on their contributions unless they specifically give up this right. Hence it is required that edit histories be preserved for all major contributions until the normal copyright expires. (from WP:MERGE)"
 * If the edit histories can be merged while still deleting the redirects, then I would suggest keeping at least the following (based on what I've found out about the game) as likely search terms: Elsin, Garacaius, Kaluen, Kirenna, Lokken, Taros, Thirsha, Ulasem, and Zhon. However, per my first point above (redirects are cheap), it may be best to just leave them (which also discourages future recreation).  -- Black Falcon 21:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.