Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Northbrook Tower


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge all to 22nd Century Media. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 23:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The Northbrook Tower, and others

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A "hyper-local" newspaper that doesn't have any apparent notability. Google searches appear to be almost all primary sources, and I don't find anything relevant in google news either. Worth a mention in either the newspaper's parent company's article, or the Northbrook, IL article, but not a standalone article. Shadowjams (talk) 23:29, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm adding the following to this nomination as well as they're all drawn from the same sort of template. If one is particularly different please indicate and this can change.

They are all local papers by a parent company 22nd Century Media. They all follow roughly the same layout and style. Shadowjams (talk) 23:35, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The Frankfort Station
 * The Homer Horizon
 * The Mokena Messenger
 * The New Lenox Patriot
 * The Orland Park Prairie
 * The Tinley Junction
 * The Lockport Legend
 * The Glenview Lantern
 * The Winnetka Current
 * The Wilmette Beacon
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 17:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 17:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 22:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge each paper to the article or articles about the community or communities it serves, if references do not exist to satisfy notability for the particular paper. It is normal in the article about a town to mention the major papers serving the town. Edison (talk) 03:01, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with mentioning it in the town articles, and perhaps even merging these to the paper's primary company, but they're not "major" by any stretch. The papers are even self-described as "hyper-local". I also think there may be some COI editing here, since two editors (if memory serves) created all of these and they all follow almost identical formatting. Shadowjams (talk) 06:32, 18 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete If any of the content was supported by reliable sources that would be one thing, but as is all I can see are brief mentions elsewhere which do little more than confirm their existence, so that's really the only piece of information worth merging. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:58, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 20:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

  There is no COI editing here in any of the articles. The old editor left the company and the Wiki page was left un-updated for a very long time. We also change our masthead logos(which you deleted for unknown reasons). These papers all have a reputation in their particular towns and deserve to be on Wikipedia. Let us know what we should do so that you people don't delete our Wiki content. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmony (talk • contribs) 22:22, 26 September 2012 (UTC)  Drdisque : Did you ever read the newspapers to say that we reprint the same articles, with different titles. Please verify and confirm before making such statements. Every single of 11 publications both newspapers and prints, are different. Except for some stories occasionally that share the same town. The following are our current websites. Please see it for yourselves. northbrooktower.com, winnetkacurrent.com , wilmettebeacon.com , glenviewlantern.com , opprairie.com , frankfortstation.com , newlenoxpatriot.com , tinleyjunction.com , mokenamessenger.com , homerhorizon.com , lockportlegend.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmony (talk • contribs) 18:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all of them for failing WP:GNG. Qworty (talk) 23:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to 22nd Century Media. For the most part these papers have no distinct content of their own. They generally reprint the same articles, just with a different title. Occasionally articles are omitted or included based on their location within the Chicagoland area. -Drdisque (talk) 19:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to 22nd Century Media or delete. These are free advertising throwaways, all for the Chicago area, and not individually notable. --John Nagle (talk) 06:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge all to 22nd Century Media or delete. The common effort to create the articles was based on a lack of interest in developing the articles from Wikipedia reliable sources that are independent of 22nd Century Media as required by WP:GNG. That makes it likely that no Wikipedia reliable sources independent of 22nd Century Media is interested in writing about these topics such that the topics do not meet WP:GNG. Merge for now and if there is a basis to write an article from Wikipedia reliable sources independent of 22nd Century Media, then that can be done. As for the merge, you only need to merge the information that is verifiable to a Wikipedia reliable sources independent of 22nd Century Media. The rest can be deleted. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:04, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
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