Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Old Kings (2nd nomination)


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 11:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The Old Kings

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questionably notable music group with no references, so I send back to an AfD Cornell Rockey 23:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. As discussed in the 1st AFD, no evidence of passing the ancillary criteria of WP:MUSIC, much less the primary notability criterion.  (Someone at the 1st AFD said their website showed 2 albums released on Jade, but I don't see it there, and even if it were there, their website is not reliable.)  Pan Dan 00:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. I did a fair bit of looking and appears can't find anything meeting WP:MUSIC. First, two of their albums are self-published—on their official website listed as "Released 2000: © The Old Kings", and two are by Jade Palace Records which appears very minor only 42 Google hits for that label. Every write up on the group I find has the exact same blurb (none at sites one would list as reliable sources), and their album is selling mainly at CDbaby, which appears to take CDs on consignment: "161,069 artists sell their CD at CD Baby". There is some ambiguity. They have a listing at allmusic (just one album) |OLD|KINGS&sql=11:ak1gtq9zxu45~T20;and one CD selling on Amazon.com with a sales rank of "no rank" and Amazon has thousands of self-published books--is it any different for CDs? No mention in any newspapers I checked.--Fuhghettaboutit 02:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. No sources provided, and I can't find any sources that would assert notability, either.  -FisherQueen (Talk) 03:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable band. Speedy deletion proposed by User:JJay, prodded by User:Pan Dan, then AfDed by User:Pan Dan, then prodded again by User:TheRingess, and again prodded by me (User:Jobjörn), and finally AfDed by User:Cornellrockey/User:Pan Dan again. As a matter of fact, hardly any actual content has been added to this article has been made since it was first edited by User:202.156.6.54. Jobjörn  (Talk ° contribs) 12:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


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