Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Old Laxey Brewing Company


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I'm sorry Bopalula but the consensus here is that this Microbrewery doesn't pass our general notability guidelines. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

The Old Laxey Brewing Company

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I am unable to find significant coverage for this company. Joe Chill (talk) 21:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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Significant coverage? How about a simple google search for "old laxey brewing company"? This gets over 2,300 results, that seems to be fairly significant. I'm sure nobody wants a link to a google search, but it seems that they may be the only way to please some people.

I live in the Isle of Man, I went to the pub that this brewery is part of just over a week ago, it's still there it exists. I first attempted to created this article as the list of breweries in the Isle of Man on Wikipedia was incomplete. My first attempt failed as certain people without relevant knowledge disliked the links provided, so I created it as a stub as this seems to be how many thousand of articles that I can't verify as true seem to get on here. Now can someone explain to me how something with 2,300 results on google does not have "significant coverage"? Bopalula (talk) 14:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:GOOGLEHITS. We don't count Google hits here.  We need coverage in reliable sources, and not just passing mentions.  In order for the topic to be considered notable on Wikipedia, we need solid coverage with meat on its bones.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  05:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, lack of "significant coverage" is not listed as a reason for deletion in the deletion policy. (Yes I know it has a generic catch all statement).

Bopalula (talk) 14:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * "Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline (WP:N, WP:BIO, WP:MUSIC, WP:CORP and so forth)" Joe Chill (talk) 19:57, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Joe Chill, I only deal in facts.
 * I've added two more references from Isle of Man Newspapers. Similar references were rejected before, but are relevant. Bopalula (talk) 19:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Those are passing mentions, not significant coverage.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, weakly. This is a local brewpub.  It apparently operates in a small hotel, according to the one accessible source.  Their ad in the same publication calls it the "island's smallest brewery" and notes that it is located in back of the hotel. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 19:10, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ihcoyc, I'm confused. You say "Delete, weakly" what does this mean? That makes no sense in English, please explain further. You then go on to make statements that seem to support the article. Bopalula (talk) 19:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * "Delete, weakly" means basically that I'd be open to persuasion that this business is notable if more significant independent reliable sources established that the brewery had achieved fame beyond its immediate locality. But the one source I was able to access (the other's a broken link) seemed to say instead that this was a local brewpub. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:49, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)




 * Weak delete Lots of passing mentions in sources.  Did not find any substantial coverage by any of the listed sources nor in a quick scan of google search hits.    No assertion of notability-related facts. North8000 (talk) 02:39, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete because of a lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. I will be happy to change my recommendation if such sources are brought forward.  Passing mentions don't count here. Perhaps other editors added a "weak" prefix out of an undertandable wish to keep an article about an interesting little island brew pub, if only it were notable.  The problem is that it isn't yet notable by Wikipedia standards.  Sorry.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  04:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete and get a website. Lots of people brew beer. Old Laxey beer sounds delicious. But it is a small operation, not something that merits encyclopedia coverage. Bella the Ball (talk) 11:08, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Also, the phrase "it is the Isle of Man's smallest independent brewery." is indicative of the subject's notability.  Sp33dyphil  "Ad astra" 12:08, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - sadly. I dont know how others searched but my first 20 pages only found a inflight magazine and a toy truck. Exit2DOS • Ctrl • Alt • Del 06:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
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