Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The One at the Beach (Friends episode)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of Friends episodes. Stifle (talk) 10:09, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

The One at the Beach (Friends episode)

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This is an unnecessary article that is not warranted. The episode was not notable and it is not common practice to have articles for individual Friends episodes. HowardRob (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: It seems that most episode pages have indeed been turned into redirects. Punkmorten (talk) 22:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:DOH (WikiProject The Simpsons) has managed to make all episodes in series eight and nine either Good or Featured. What is it that makes Friends episodes so much less notable than Simpson or Star Trek episodes? Arsenikk (talk)  22:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The writing of the articles?  Corvus cornix  talk  23:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless it meets the criteria for speedy deletion for matter such as blatant advertising, the quality of the article is independent of its notability, and is not relevant in an AfD. Crappy articles on important matters will always survive, and excellent articles on non-notable matters will be struck down and destroyed. Arsenikk (talk)  16:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to wherever it should go. JuJube (talk) 08:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and discuss the possible merge/redirect on the talk page. As a redirect at least is warranted, there is no need to bring it here. I haven't any idea whether Friends episodes are as notable as Simpsons episodes, but the place to discuss it is at  the appropriate talk page. I do point out that each one is likely to have been reviewed. DGG (talk) 15:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The article isn't perfect, but it's a good faith effort, and it actually does provide some production and reception info. I'm pretty sure that Friends consistently received higher ratings than The Simpsons, so from a common-sense standpoint, it seems OK to have articles on individual Friends episodes. The de facto TV episode guidelines tend to favor TV series with large geek followings, like The Simpsons or Dr. Who, because shows like those generate all kinds of episode guides, websites, magazines, etc. However, that doesn't mean that such shows are the most important programs. Zagalejo^^^ 21:43, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect. Zagalejo has a point but just as "verifiability is not truth" so notability is not importance.  We should have articles on things covered in independent, reliable sources and not have ones on those not so covered.  As WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS counsels each article must stand or fall on its own merits.  Eluchil404 (talk) 04:02, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Friends episodes. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.