Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Only Promise That Remains


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. if a merge is desired, it can be handled editorially but no one is making a case for deletion so we don't need to continue this. Star  Mississippi  15:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

The Only Promise That Remains

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This was listed as a Good Article, but I delisted it due to extremely poor sourcing and now I'm not even convinced it meets WP:NSONGS. To wit:


 * 1) Windy City Times is a PR piece about the album
 * 2) MTV source only verifies that Reba will be perfoming the song on a TV show
 * 3) Variety is about the album and doesn't mention the song at all
 * 4) USA Today is a passing mention in an article about the album
 * 5) Duets Booklet is just the CD's liner notes
 * 6) Carroll MTV is just an interview with JT where he name-drops the song
 * 7) AllMusic is just a track listing of the album itself
 * 8) People is 404
 * 9) Pop Matters is also 404
 * 10) KT is a Billboard review of the album that dedicates than a full sentence to it
 * 11) The last three sources just verify the chart positions and the release date

In short, not a single one of the sources is about the song itself. Several are about the album, but WP:NSONGS states that Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created.

Given that the song had very low chart positions and didn't even crack the country music charts at all, I move that this be either deleted, or merged/redirected to the album. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep There is evidently enough here to write a worthwhile article on the subject. Deleting this (and presumably the infobox within it) would make the information harder for readers to find and would not improve Wikipedia, thus I think it should be kept even if a strict interpretation of the guidelines suggests it should be deleted. This shouldn't really be a deletion discussion anyway, it ought to be a proposed merge. NemesisAT (talk) 13:19, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you ignore the part where I quoted Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created.? Literally none of these sources are about the song itself; they're about the album. This is why I said delete or merge. Most of the content about the song is already on the album's page, so there isn't much to merge that wouldn't be WP:UNDUE. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Pinging, , , Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge with Reba: Duets. Per nom the sources alone doesn't warrant the song having its own article. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 18:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:NSONG per NemesisAT's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 00:23, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll say it again: Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:57, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * - you've made your point, remember some decorum please. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 01:11, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * merge. Does not meet WP:NSONG which clearly says Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. Charting only indicates notability but considering the album is spare content should be merged there instead. ≫  Lil- Unique1  -{ Talk  }- 01:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect or merge. I'm not convinced all the backstory on this song is DUE anywhere, and therefore there is limited material that could be merged to the album page anyway. JoelleJay (talk) 18:27, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.