Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Order of the Elm and Key


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The result was   Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 05:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

The Order of the Elm and Key

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Unreferenced, simply an advertisment Inlandmamba (talk) 07:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete and SALT. I couldn't find anything out there to show that this secret society is notable. I tried searching and couldn't find anything out there other than this article. If their goal was to remain secret, they've done an admirable job of it.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:18, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks independent coverage (source 2 is published ty the college and 3 is not independent) and article is dubious, source 1 is according to this 16 pages long, page says order is mentioned on page 24. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. I was just wondering... When I searched, I couldn't find any mention of this secret society at all. With the first source being questionable as to whether or not the society is mentioned, do you think this might be a hoax? The only secret society I've found at Trinity is Episkopon and while there are parts of the group that call themselves "Order of the Golden Key", it's within the bounds of Episkopon.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Episkopon is at a different "Trinity College". It's at Trinity College of the University of Toronto. This one is at Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut. --Orlady (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Additional: I'm recommending a salting of both this title and of Order of the Elm and Key, as this looks like it's been something that's been repeatedly added and will likely have further attempts at adding.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete. While for all I know, Trinity College (Hartford) might in fact have such a secret society, they're far better at the "secret" part of that concept than most, and there is no real information about it or its existence. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 16:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's tough to be "secret" and notable at the same time. This society seems to be pretty successful at "secret," but that means it lacks third-party published coverage, which makes it non-notable. However, I oppose salting. The article has only been created twice, under two different titles, both times by a new user (same person both times) who is doubtless still confused about policies here. I don't believe it should be necessary to salt the article to prevent its re-creation. --Orlady (talk) 02:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've started an AfD for another article about an undocumented secret society: Articles for deletion/Order of the Crown (Vanderbilt). --Orlady (talk) 03:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
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