Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Pervasive Arcane Substance (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Wizardman 17:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The Pervasive Arcane Substance
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I still believe that after the rewriting, it still fails Notability (books). A Google search reveals one (1) mention outside of Wikipedia, on an online forum. The article itself says the book is self-published, and I still can't find it in the Library of Congress, British Library, or National Library of Australia catalogs. It meets none of the inclusion criteria or exclusionary criteria. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is kind of promotional anyway.  --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 19:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as unverifiable. As per nom, only google hits outside wikipedia on online forum, no hits on library of congress, British Library, or National Library of Australia. In addition, no hits on World cat, amazon.co.uk or amazon.com. No hits on Google news, a google blog search, or google groups search. A search on yahoo get the same forum hits, a dogpile search gets only get wikipedia, the forum hits, and irrelevant hits, while an exact quote search gets nothing on Ask Jeeves. If this exists at all, it is extremely non-notable. The forum posts make it unclear if this (if it exists as a book), has been released yet. Silverfish (talk) 19:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I was not aware that only notable authors were allowed to take up space, sorry guys. Nousoul
 * Delete It can exist before publication, certainly.  But how can it be NOTABLE?  Wikipedia is not for listing every book ever, nor is it for gaining notability (i.e. promoting an otherwise unnotable book.)  It is for listing books that already have notability, as attested and verified in significant secondary sources.  I do hope your book becomes notable, and thus worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia.  :)  Until then, your willingness to have it deleted is commendable.  Good luck to you!  98.215.48.213 (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete agree author's acceptance of this is commendable; but to avoid disappointment he should read Notability (books) and realise that just being published won't qualify his book for an article. JohnCD (talk) 19:55, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete- Could find no reliable sources, fails WP:BK. --Captain-tucker (talk) 01:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


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