Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Plaque, Winnipeg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy deleted by DGG, CSD G3: Blatant hoax. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

The Plaque, Winnipeg

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The article was Prodded and that was removed. There is no indication this concrete driveway in anyway will meet notability guidelines. I can't find any reliable sources that discuss this driveway. -- GB fan 11:39, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete. Utter drivel. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:19, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * , what speedy deletion criterion do you propose we use? -- GB fan 15:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like A11 to me. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's an article about someone's driveway. Brought a few moments of humour into my life but it's not notable (Google returned nothing relevant) Neiltonks (talk) 16:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. clpo13(talk) 17:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete, seems to be A11 - article creator User:RobLab identifies themselves on their userpage as Robert Labossiere, and the article is about the Labossiere family driveway on which "Robert and Tim talk&#91;ed&#93; after school, often until dinnertime". No sources, and no explanation as to why the driveway of a Winnipeg school inspector (identical to all other driveways in the neighbourhood except that the Labossiere family used a French word to refer to it?) deserves recording in an encyclopedia. --McGeddon (talk) 18:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Snow delete. Personal history, sounds like something Guy Maddin might include in the long-awaited sequel to My Winnipeg. The article does make a pretense of claiming the driveway is unusual for its "floating slab" construction, but it's unsourced and unconvincing.  At this point, given the multiple editors who've taken the time to respond here, I'd prefer to see this as a snow delete on the merits, with full effect, rather than a peremptory deletion under A11.  But whatever. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:43, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Apparently this is where I am to defend proposed deletion of this page. I am a newbee. This is confusing. Please be gentle.


 * Initially McGedden said it was not refer to a sufficient "notable" landmark. I replied "notable to whom," raising a question, not an opposition, as to who determines notability and questioning how local vs official history is to be represented, even encouraged here on Wikipedia.


 * Then D'Superhero proposed rapid deletion, on new grounds, the article is too "short." Really.


 * Judging from Mr. D's talk page, he is a controversial type, prone to flaming, possibly someone Wikipedia would exactly be pround of. I'm not judging, just saying. If 3 or 4 responders are telling you you're wrong, quoting Wikipedia scripture, well, I'm a newbee, that looks fairly damning.


 * So what's a fella to do? I would appreciate guidance. "The Plaque" is admittedly not a huge deal for me. I think it's interesting, as a phenomon, historically, and maybe it's significance will grow in recognition over time, not so much in itself but as a totem of a time, a place, people and the meanings they carried with them. What else is an encyclopedia for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobLab (talk • contribs) 01:32, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Afraid I missed your reply on the article talk page. Someone really should have pointed you at Wikipedia's notability guideline by now, apologies for not doing so. In summary, Wikipedia articles are on subjects "that have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time". We could all research and write personal essays on our childhood haunts, but if those places had no wider significance (basically: no coverage in the press or published books), such writings don't belong in this encyclopedia. --McGeddon (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * okay, suddenly I see a bunch of other "talk." I do appreciate the attention. Really, it's such a small part of history. But therefore excludable? Says who? My father was not merely a "school inspector " but a senior bureaucrat in the Department of Education. Someone could use some help with reading. The Maddin reference made me smile. Gimli boy done good. His flic "My Winnipeg" made me laugh out loud, on an airplane. Maddin, however, is not joking, either. History is how we construct it, and I would like to do so here. Also, plaques are not as also commented, common in suburbia. In fact, they are rare. I will do some research and substantiate as much as I can in the article, if you would give me just half a chance. Don't you folks have jobs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobLab (talk • contribs) 01:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * wow, really, I just spend an hour plus trying to substantiate my article with links and what not and you just ride over them... wow, i'm stunned — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobLab (talk • contribs) 03:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by this? You mention the same "lost edits" being overwritten by somebody else's alert, on my talk page, but the article hasn't been edited by anyone in that time.
 * If you've got a couple of links that back up the notability of the Plaque (a local press clipping, a few paragraphs in a history book, an award), by all means paste them as raw links here and that will likely be enough to see the article kept. --McGeddon (talk) 09:35, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Manitoba-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:12, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete – Not remotely notable by Wikipedia's standards. Graham (talk) 03:30, 23 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.