Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Price to Pay


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The result was withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure).  ArcAngel    (talk) ) 20:39, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

The Price to Pay

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Fails WP:NBOOK. From Joseph Fadelle seems it's only sold 50k copies since it was published. Also seems to be true story. Article is abysmal. 2 sources out of 3 are 404's and the other one is Amazon page. No other newspaper book sections contain it. scope_creep 23:00, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Withdrawn by nominator I think it's fairly obvious by now that the book and the author are notable. You can't have one without the the other, they are so intrinsically linked. scope_creep talk 20:35  16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment It is indeed, an autobiography. I found four short reviews here, in-depth reviews here, here, here, and here,along with a podcast, though what I was really searching for was any major literary award it might have won (satisfying Criteria #2, but it does not appear to have done so.     ArcAngel    (talk) ) 00:45, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: So far I'm undecided. It helps that the podcast mentioned was part of the RNW and is currently hosted on the station's website, so I'd consider that to be a reliable source. I found a review from the New Oxford Review, which also looks to be usable. I'm kind of undecided about CatholicCulture.org and TFP. CC.org does have an editorial board and it's written by the site's president and founder, so it has that going for it. Books-reviews.co.uk looks like it'd be considered a blog-type SPS, so I wouldn't really count that towards notability. Porphyra Books doesn't look to be usable- I can't quite figure it out, but the website seems to suggest that the book is something that they are selling along with other works. (In other words, I think it's a merchant site of sorts.) In any case, the review looks like it's mostly cobbled together quotes and I can't verify that the site has any editorial oversight to speak of. As far as the reviews on the official publisher site goes, those look to be the run of the mill book blurbs that get used to drum up publicity. It's very common for publishers to seek blurbs from various respected persons, so without anything to show that these are snippets of longer reviews in various RS, we have to assume that they're just routine book blurbs. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't quite tell if this would be a RS or not: It looks like it has an editorial oversight, but I'm not familiar with the site. Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔   14:54, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep There are some reviews in French that combined with the one's Tokyogirl79 noted above push this one over the line for me: La Revue de Teheran, Valeurs Actuelles and L'Express. The citations are at French Wiki's article: fr:Le Prix à payer (livre), so I don't know whether we should/need to copy them over. Something could also be said for merging this article about the author's autobiography with the article about the author: Joseph Fadelle, inasmuch as most of the sources discuss both the book and his life together. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 17:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: this book was translated into at least 6 languages; there are various references in French media and probably also in other countries. Peter17 (talk) 09:45, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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