Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Purrington Post


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The result was delete and redirect to Media coverage of cats. Randykitty (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

The Purrington Post

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Most claims for notability are mentions in lists of blogs by other blogs. Alleged awards are not major or significant and effectively badges given by individual peers without any coverage themselves. Therefore failing GNG and WEB. The mentioned books appear to be cross-marketing. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 09:52, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 09:52, 29 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Reply to the above. Firstly it doesn't surprise me that this has been nominated for deletion. Not because I doubt its notability but because at first glance it appears that it's an area that the mainstream hasn't embraced yet. Actaully it is beginning now. I could see if there was no article for the seemingly obscure Garage rock band, The Bees and tomorrow someone created it, it could very well be up for deletion. Take an organization like the Tuvalu Media Corporation. If it wasn't already established I could see someone recommending it for deletion because they've never heard of Tuvalu and being such a small country in the Pacific with a small population, they wouldn't consider it notable. The online magazine, The Purrington Post is notable as it is a source of news for cat lovers. It is one of the most prominent. (There's a whole other world out there, a dimension some folks may not be aware of). The article is not relying on blogs for notability as you say. It's already mentioned and quoted in Austin Macauley Publishers and MarketWatch. Also news website Romper quoted Purrington in their article, "Do Cats Smile? Here's How To Tell Your Cat Is Happy, At Least On The Inside". Romper, June 1 2018 - Do Cats Smile? Here's How To Tell Your Cat Is Happy, At Least On The Inside By Shari Maurer - 3.They Meow — A Lot. Also, news website Eva.ro has used the Post's own article to reference in Daniel Dumitrescu's article about Thor a Bengali, "Tigrișorul de casă: Thor, pisica bengaleză care face senzație pe Instagram". Eva.ro, 19 Septembrie 2017  - Tigrișorul de casă: Thor, pisica bengaleză care face senzație pe Instagram de Daniel Dumitrescu, The referenced article used by Daniel Dumitrescu was in The Purrington Post, Sep 9, 2017 - A Bengal Beauty from Belgium. They appeared in Google News. There were other mentions there in four other articles. Remember, we are also talking about the world of the cat lover and enthusiast. Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 10:38, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable news source and definitely prominent in the world of the cat lover and enthusiast. Karl Twist (talk) 10:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not going into a review of other articles. Your example of Tuvalu Media Corp does not stand. This company is widely covered, including by reputable outlets such as the BBC and in scholarly articles. AFC discussions are about the nominated article and WP:OSE is in this case not valid. It may be used if a pattern amongst peers can be identified (e.g. a pattern of "keep" discussions that may establish some kind of threshold). As for the claims of notability, Romper mentions Purrington Post once and in passing. The Eva.ro article is along the same line. I cannot comment if this site is a blog or respected news site. The Google News link you provided gives 6 results: Romper and Eva (already discussed), two on the Japanese web portal Biglobe that are apparently translations of other articles and the Computer Bild article that talks about cat toys in general (no mention of PP whatsoever) and just seems to have plastered the article with cat picture tweets, one of which happens to be PP. Not sure about TCPalm. This is a "contributor" article. Those tend to be "bloggy" with questions about independence or reliability. Don't get me wrong: I had cats for most of my life. But looking at this beyond emotions, this does look a lot like "cat sphere" blogs without individual notability quoting each other and thus giving the impression of wider coverage. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 10:56, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Reply to Jake Brockman earlier post - One of them you're right about. Yes with Computer Bild, someone connected with the Purrington Post seems to have put in a post about cats. You're wrong about the books appearing to be cross-marketing. One relationship between the Purrington Post and with the book Petula, Circus Cat, it is mentioned by a major website (Austin Macauley Publishers). Another book, Strays: The True Story of a Lost Cat, a Homeless Man, and Their Journey Across America by  Britt Collins - ISBN-10: 1501125621  has the comments by the Post in the praise section, alongside comments by * Library Journal, * The Conscious Cat, * Booklist, * Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson, * Claire Bessant the CEO of International Cat Care, * Lead singer of The Pogues, Shane MacGowan, * Caroline Paul, and * Scott Carney etc.. Book got good reviews On Amazon  too. Now the latest post at  10:56, 30 December 2018 - I merely used the Tuvalu Media Corporation as an example of a noteworthy article that some users could nominate for deletion because of their unfamiliarity of Tuvalu and that it is a small country. When you commented at 10:56, 30 December 2018, there were 6 results of the Purrington Post. Now there are 8. 1. Business 2 Community, 28 Oct 2014 - 24 Cats More Likely To Vote On Election Day Than Most Americans 2. TCPalm, 20 Jan 2017 - Catty Comments: Cats have been popular White House pets 3. BIGLOBE, 15 Jul 2017 - 同じニャーでも意味が違うんだからおまえら覚えておくように. 猫の11種の鳴き方とその意味、対処法 4. BIGLOBE, 20 Jul 2017 - ギリシャにある猫島. 白と青の美しいコントラストの中で優雅に暮らす、サントリーニ島の猫たち 5. BIGLOBE, 26 Jul 2017 - 茶トラ猫についての9つのオモシロ豆知識 6. Eva.ro,  13 Sep 2017  - Tigrișorul de casă: Thor, pisica bengaleză care face senzație pe Instagram 7 Romper, 31 May 2018 - Do Cats Smile? Here's How To Tell Your Cat Is Happy, At Least On The Inside 8. COMPUTER BILD, 10.10.2018 - Kratzbaum, Trinkbrunnen & Co.: Katzenerstausstattung – alles für die Katz! Now take away the 2 or 3 blogs from the article and it still stands!~ I only included them to give a bit more breadth to the article to show that in the world of the cat lover, cat culture, cat religion (if you like) what the site means to people out there in cat land. Not in an emotional kind of thing, but as a news source! Karl Twist (talk) 10:22, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sheldybett (talk) 10:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Needs more discussion about the sources posted from others.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:57, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not meet WP:GNG, a gsearch has not brought up any useable sources ie. other blogs, nothing listed above by the article creator contributes notability, rather a reading of what they have listed reinforces the lack of notability. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:05, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Reply to above - It may be inconceivable to some that there would one day be a news website that covers cat news. First of all I need to reinforce the fact that this, The Purrington Post is not a news website for cats, because cats as far as we are aware are unable to read. I do believe that they understand and know a lot more than we give them credit for. So then what is it? Well, The Purrington Post is a news source for cat lovers and enthusiasts. We have notable motorbike news for the bike enthusiast community as we do for the electronic enthusiast community and others. I have already established that It's already mentioned and quoted in notable sites such as Austin Macauley Publishers. It was referred to in September 2018 as an award-winning cat blog by the Dow Jones & Company owned financial information service MarketWatch, which did an article, "Canadian Brand Natural Pet Science New Product Launch Receives Media Recognition for Pet Treats Made from Hemp and Crickets". And in the endorsement of the product, The Purrington Post was mentioned. Looking at Sandy Lerner’s 2017 Book, Caticons: 4,000 Years of Art Imitating Cats which was reviewed in (Middleburg's only locally owned and operated newspaper), Middleburg Eccentric, November 3, 2017, -  and written about on Fauquier Now, July, 10, 2018 -, The San Francisco Chronicle, July 26, 2018 - , and San Francisco Magazine,  On Page 27 of Catworld magazine, there's an ad for the book Caticons. The only review quoted there is from The Purrington Post. See - Catworld, December 2017, Issue 477, Page 27  BTW, Catworld has been going for 37 years and retails for £4.99. The author's own website mentions the interview conducted by The Purrington Post, and provides a link to it.  So the book isn't some self-published book for cat lovers that was written by some some cat lady, the book is by a notable person and the news site that interviewed the author was The Purrington Post. Karl Twist (talk) 08:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Film reviewer, the PP also reviewed the award winning short film, Aeris.FilmFreeway: Aeris. It also interviewed the film makers. Purrington Post: The Story of Aeris: A Legacy Inspired by Love, Pop Dust, 10/11/17 - FILM | Aeris: The Unlikely Story of a Cat and Unconditional Love - By Megan Christopher Karl Twist (talk) 12:10, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:11, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete as non-notable. --Lockley (talk) 18:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Reply - The Purrington Post like many other news sites comes up in its own searches. I have looked at some more books and The Purrington Post is referenced in, or has appeared in the publication as an endorser. A similar cat-news site, The Catnip Times also appears in Google News a fair bit. But The Purrington Post has more hits than the Catnip Times. Two weeks ago there were 7 hits in Google News. Now there are now 9 hits in Google news and I'd say in a few weeks there'll be more. There are some inaccuracies given here in supporting a deletion of this article. Again, what needs to be looked at is The Purrington's prominence in Cat news. When another cat-oriented film gets released in the US, I am confident that they'll be interviewing the film makers as they did with Aeris. As strange as it seems, believe it or not, "Cat Media" is here. It still stand by my statement that the subject here is notable! Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 12:47, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to the closing admin - I still stand by what I said about the article being notable and it should stay! It is a respected news source among the cat lover community and used as such for things that are very real to them. I just ask that if it gets to the point where deletion becomes a consideration, you might look at the possibility of redirecting it to Media coverage of cats or Cat lover culture. Thanks Karl Twist (talk) 09:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:WEB. jps (talk) 18:02, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete A few sources, many of which are not independent or enough to establish notability.Slatersteven (talk) 18:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. As others have pointed out, I'm just not seeing any sources that would really satisfy our notability requirements. Anything mentioned about it is pretty low-tier or non-independent sources. Kingofaces43 (talk) 21:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination and despite the admiration one may feel about the genuinely passionate effort that must have gone into the project. The suggestion by Karl Twist for a Redirect should be entertained. -The Gnome (talk) 12:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


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