Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Quasar Project (band)


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The result was delete. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

The Quasar Project (band)

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Seemingly non-notable band. Speedy declined by an admin on the basis that there is assertion (though i disagree – "releasing a self-titled EP" is not an assertion of notability, endless non-notables have done that) so here we are.  tomasz.  08:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:MUSIC. Lankiveil (talk) 10:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Speedy delete. No assertion of notability. I don't know how anyone can construe "released a self-titled EP" as an assertion of notability. That's not in WP:BAND anywhere. Having a record doesn't mean anythng, as anyone can self-publish or publish on a no-name label. WP:BAND clearly lays out requirements that they publish on a "major label or one of the more important indie labels", and it requires two or more releases (read point 5 carefully), so one EP undeniably fails here, and they don't pass on any of the other criteria TheBilly (talk) 10:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:BAND doesn't apply to WP:CSD. CSD A7 dictates that something must have no assertion of notability whatsoever and applies to speedy deletion only; the music notability guidelines state what consensus generally accepts is the standard for inclusion in normal deletion discussions. WP:CSD operates outside any notability guideline whatsoever, as the bar is "an assertion of notability", not "what guidelines say is notable".  Daniel  10:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I realize this, and I can read. However, "released a self-titled EP" doesn't sound like an assertion of notability. That sounds like something that is very open to interpretation, so I'd call it "a vague implication of notability" TheBilly (talk) 11:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "[A] vague implication of notability" is sufficient to avoid WP:CSD as written :)  Daniel  11:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I must be the only one who thinks that "assertion" and "implication" are different words. The article doesn't argue that they are important because they have a release; it mentions they have a release, and then it's up to the reader to construe that as important, depending on whether you consider self-published releases important or not (wikipedia doesn't). "influential", "popular", "groundbreaking", "commercially successful", "innovative", would be assertions of importance. But, whatever, this is getting off-topic and polluting the debate which will turn out Delete anyway, just not speedy. For further nitpicking and abuse of the English language, please feel free to bring this to my talk page :) :) :) TheBilly (talk) 11:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * But "released a self-titled EP" is still neither such an assertion nor even such a vague implication. i could record four cover songs on my computer tonight, burn it to a CD tomorrow and give it to someone Saturday. This would be a self-titled EP. i would still be completely non-notable per WP:BAND and the fact that i had recorded this self-titled EP would not assert anything to the contrary.  tomasz.  15:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, could speedy delete this without much harm. Non-notable.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 12:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above - not notable. Funeral 14:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


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