Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The R3-30 charts


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The result was   delete. postdlf (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

The R3-30 charts

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Although the 2011 list was kept in an earlier AFD discussion in 2011 (2012 is a later creation), circumstances are different now for several reasons: So for all of those reasons, the end result is that we're currently maintaining primary-sourced lists for a grand total of 77 weeks within the history of a radio show that's been running for almost 500 weeks, with only a theoretical prospect of the other 400+ weeks ever actually being added. I'd be happy to withdraw this if anybody's actually willing to undertake a project of actively getting all the gaps filled in — but if we can't or won't actually do that, then these two lists don't have much encyclopedic value in isolation. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 20:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) The companion lists for 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 have all since been converted into redirects to the main article about the show itself, because of their lack of any sourcing at all.
 * 2) The entire project of maintaining these at all appears to have been completely abandoned: even though the show is still running today, the 2012 list stops at June 29 and no comparable lists have even been started for any year since 2012.
 * 3) Even these two surviving lists rely entirely on primary sources (i.e. the network's own postings of the charts on its own website), rather than independent reliable source coverage. Further, sourcing the pre-2011 lists back up to the standard necessary to restore them as standalone articles would require digging into the same primary sources, as would actually finishing 2012 or filling in any of the years since.
 * 4) Because this is a single-network chart rather than an IFPI-certified one, it fails Record charts anyway. It's a chart we're allowed to acknowledge in the body text of an article that has already satisfied WP:NMUSIC in other ways, but it's not a chart that can confer NMUSIC #2 on a musician or band in and of itself — so it's not a chart for which it's valuable for us to keep a comprehensive week-to-week record.
 * 5) Even the main article about The R3-30 itself is such a poorly sourced and outdated mess by 2015-vintage wikistandards that, even as the person who originally created a lot of the content way back when our sourcing rules were very different than they are now, I'm now sorely tempted to just collapse it back into a redirect to a much-abbreviated subsection of CBC Radio 3, rather than a standalone article topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 20:32, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:28, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete per nom. I also don't find the keep arguments made in the previous AFD terribly convincing.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  11:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. They aren't official and they fail Wikipedia notability requirements. I didn't realized the older lists were redirected. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 23:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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