Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The RFD Boys


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. BJ Talk 04:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC) I don't know who deleted this article or when it was deleted, but frankly it pisses me off quite a bit that it was.

Whoever did this needs to realize a few things. First and foremost, this band has been around since 1969 in the Ann Arbor, Michigan area and it has a TREMENDOUS fan base and following in this area. It appears as though a google stalk was done of the band and you basically eluded to the fact that not much turned up. This is surprising given the FIRST thing that appears on a google search is the bands website (rfdboys.com). If you take the time to actually click on the link you will see a decently comprehensive and focused history of the band. Also, if you had done a seconds more research you would have seen from this original wikipedia article OR from the aforementioned website that they regularly play at The Ark which is a nationally renowned folk venue. The Ark also has a website (theark.org) and if you look at their calendar of events...SURPRISE you will find the RFD Boys. The article mentions again some of the famous musicians that they have shared the stage with....although you appear content to chalk off such mentions as "name-dropping".

Perhaps your most fatal flaw is your inability to understand that given that this band has been around for 40 years....all the members are in their upper 50's and 60's. Thus they are not as technologically savvy as you AND such "sources" as you desire have not really been converted to electronic form. An example? Example: They were on the cover of Bluegrass Unlimited (which is equivalent to the Rolling Stone of bluegrass music) in May 1976 as well as having another article appear in the magazine in the 80's. Bluegrass Unlimited, however, is a smaller magazine and unfortunately has not converted its archives to electronic form. This can be evidenced by going to the Bluegrass Unlimited website and clicking on their archive section. It will read "coming soon". Thus there are not a bunch of electronic sources that can establish the legitimacy that you are so quick to call into question. Not everything can be answered on the World Wide Web....especially localized entities that have not garnered international fame.

Finally, there are many articles that discuss the band in the local newspaper. That newspaper, the Ann Arbor News, recently went under and thus no longer exists. That, coupled with the fact that many of the articles were again written before electronic archives makes it difficult to link to electronic "sources." There is, however, a mention of the band again on arborweb.org which is a local website (http://arborweb.com/articles/the_rfd_boys.html). One of their albums can be found on Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/RFD-Boys/e/B000ARC6JQ). They also receive mention on the website artist direct (http://www.artistdirect.com/artist/rfd-boys/538607). The Detroit News previews their upcoming September 19th, 2009 performance at the Ark (http://events.detnews.com/ann-arbor-mi/events/show/87652237-the-rfd-boys).

So, basically, I found a bunch of sources in a 5 minute google search. Sorry that the band doesn't have a bunch of electronic resources to please you pinhead tech boys. But this squad is legit and questioning them doesn't sit well with their devoted and at times cult-like fanatical following. It is a bit like dangling a baby chick in front of a Puma. Whether or not this article is ever allowed back on Wikipedia, just now that your challenge as been met and answered. Next time bring a full deck of cards to the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.198.103 (talk) 01:54, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The RFD Boys

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I declined the speedy deletion nomination, so I'm bringing it here for further evaluation. There are some sources that might establish notability, and I'd be willing to work on the article if necessary. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 05:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- the wub  "?!"  16:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. No sources, and no real claims outside of the name-dropping of musicians that they claim to have played with. --Calton | Talk 16:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete With very little effort, I found a couple sources with short mentions of this band:, . Not a huge amount of coverage overall: .  I would like to give others, especially the original author if still present and active, some time to contribute more sources.  If a single source with more detailed coverage were found I would change my recommendation to a weak keep and two or more such sources would convince me to keep.  They have released at least one album:  with a local record label.  Cazort (talk) 21:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability per WP:MUSIC. Searching finds no significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources.   Esradekan Gibb    "Klat" 12:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.