Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Rain Tapes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 04:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The Rain Tapes

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Fails notability per WP:NALBUMS. Collection of demo material that has never been released, of which in fact it is illegal to hold copies of. Article is a mix of OR and inventions. Subject is already covered in the Erotica article and the far superior Unreleased Madonna songs article. Main information for article comes from one source (Goldmine (magazine)) which can hardly be qualified as "significant independent coverage".Paul75 (talk) 00:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Not covered in this form in the Unreleased article. It would be nice if the Goldmine article were more extensively quoted, because it seems to be the main source of the detail in this article, and Goldmine (magazine) is a reasonably good source per WP:NALBUMS:"unreleased albums are in general not notable; however, they may be notable if they have significant independent coverage in reliable sources."Subject exists, and more information will probably become available in time. / edg ☺ ☭ 01:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note whether more information becomes available in time is immaterial. The article fails Wikipedia guidelines per WP:NALBUMS.  This is an unreleased tape of demos.  The only way it can be ever considered for an article is if it is officially released to the public by Madonna's record label.  What little information we know about the tapes has been twisted over time anyway, with countless fakes all over the internet. Paul75 (talk) 01:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Neutral. I actually created this article, but this was primarily to remove the content from the article on Unreleased Madonna songs, as the majority of the songs on the tapes are only demos of songs ultimately released, and therefore didn't belong on that page. The Tapes themselves are still notable in that they are probably the highest sought after material among fans, although perhaps a shortened version of the article could be merged with the article on the Erotica album. The info on the 'fake tapes' is not at all appropriate for wikipedia and should be removed regardless. JKW111 (talk) 02:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: maybe if it was a formal release there might be some merit in keeping it but it doesn't appear to have significant sources WP:NALBUMS. JamesBurns (talk) 07:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  03:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete: non notable demo, did not chart. A-Kartoffel (talk) 00:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   —Paul75 (talk) 11:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.