Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Randoms


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The result was   delete. BJ Talk 00:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

The Randoms

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Band which is not yet notable and fails WP:MUSIC on all counts. dramatic (talk) 23:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.  dramatic (talk) 23:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing to prove notability unless reliable sources can be found.  -  down  load  |   sign!  23:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I know of these guys, and there is nothing out there yet that would allow them to pass the WP:MUSIC criteria.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 23:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey - admittedly I'm new here, so I'm still not totally clear about what counts as notable or not (so I won't complain if this page does get deleted), but these guys won the biggest round of what is probably New Zealands most famous music contest, and they're going to be fronting for the Datsuns (one of NZ's biggest bands) on their tour later this year. They've also been played several times on national radio (including a playing on their entire second album on its release)--ScribbleStick (talk) 00:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Scribble, if you have a looksie at WP:MUSIC you'll see there are 12 criteria, of which a band only needs to meet one of them. Keep in mind that any claim has to be backed up with significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources. #9 stated you have to have won or placed in a major music competition. While the Smokefreerockquest is a notable comp, they neither won, nor got into the finals, so they miss out on that one. Them going on tour in the future doesn't count either, as Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Even if the tour has happened, it still wouldn't count as notable for The Randoms since notability isn't inherited, they have to stand on their own feet, not off of the success of others. Of course keeping in mind, while it's OK to make a claim about something, Wikipedia does require you to verify that claim. I hope this all helps you in some small way. If you've got any more questions please feel free to drop by my talk page. Cheers.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 01:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Points taken. How about this - they were subjects of an article in a notable media source . I think there are other articles like this somwhere. Let me know if that would help and I'll look for some.--ScribbleStick (talk) 01:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The Eastern and Bays Courier is a community giveaway paper, and these tend to have somewhat lower editorial standards than, say, The Auckland Herald. They are usually not regarded as Reliable Sources, especially if they are the only source. (Granted, the article you linked to is at least based on an interview rather than a press release. Interesting contradiction that our article says they came second and the paper says they won. The definitive source for that would be the SFRQ website, which doesn't bother listing last year's regional results.)dramatic (talk) 02:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The Eastern and Bays Courier is a community giveaway paper, and these tend to have somewhat lower editorial standards than, say, The Auckland Herald. They are usually not regarded as Reliable Sources, especially if they are the only source. (Granted, the article you linked to is at least based on an interview rather than a press release. Interesting contradiction that our article says they came second and the paper says they won. The definitive source for that would be the SFRQ website, which doesn't bother listing last year's regional results.)dramatic (talk) 02:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete — Non-notable music group. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 14:21, 30 April 2009 (UTC))


 * Delete - No notability or sources Germinscout (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —-- Avant-garde a clue - hexa  Chord 2  10:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
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