Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Red-Headed League (Sherlock Holmes episode)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep; the consensus has shifted during this AfD. Mojo Hand (talk) 03:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

The Red-Headed League (Sherlock Holmes episode)

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Unreferenced, not notable. This is the only episode of the series with its own article. Fuddle (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as fails GNG - very strange addition. Doesn't appear this episode was nominated for any kind of award etc. —Мандичка YO 😜 13:03, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just to note that this is not the only one with its own article, we also have A Scandal in Bohemia (1984 TV series) and The Naval Treaty which are two more episodes of the Jeremy Brett TV adaptations. Mr Potto (talk) 20:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Ah. So should the others be marked for deletion? Fuddle (talk) 03:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't know. I've been looking around briefly and I've found more examples of British TV series like this, but I don't know about assessing notability of TV episodes. I do know that the Brett Holmes series is very highly regarded, but I really don't know about notability. I'll investigate a bit more and will comment further later. Mr Potto (talk) 07:01, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:36, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:36, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - I have added a couple references to the article from the notable website TV.com which rates the episode 9.4/10, as well as doing a bit of work to improve it. The notion that Jeremy Brett's Holmes is not notable is incorrect. This is, as now referenced, a highly regarded episode of the classic 80's TV series, featuring the series' debut of the widely known Holmes archenemy Professor Moriarty. Jus  da  fax   07:39, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:22, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - The original listing was based on the premise that the article was not notable, and that it was unreferenced. The former is demonstrably untrue, and the second is no longer true. In addition, per commenter Mr. Potto, the original contention by the nominator that there are no other Wikipedia articles on  episodes of the "very highly regarded" Jeremy Brett series is also untrue. I contend therefore that the nominator's delete !vote should be discounted, along with that of the follow up, which fails to carry weight. To single out this article and leave the other existing  Brett Holmes episodes would be a curious act, and seems to have confused the nominator, who has not followed up for six days, nor replied to rebut or acknowledge my comments in support. Articles regarding individual shows of notable television series are of course well established practice on Wikipedia, and Sherlock Holmes is also of course notable... Indeed, a household name for generations. I ask, therefore, given the time elapsed, the relisting, and the obvious discussional weight that is unanswered, that a Speedy Keep be applied, and that we move on to more obviously worthy candidates for deletion.  Jus  da  fax   11:13, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm going to suggest keeping this now, after Jusdafax has added to the article. The Jeremy Brett Holmes series was considered of seminal importance in the UK, and many see it as the definitive interpretation of the character. Also, a number of other UK classic series from the past have many individual episode entries (like The Avengers (TV series)). I know this sounds like "I like it" and "Other stuff exists", which quite correctly are not sufficient, but I'm not familiar with the TMF guidelines for TV episodes so please just take these comments in the spirit they're intended. Mr Potto (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The topic is covered in detail in numerous sources such as The Guinness Book of Classic British TV. It therefore passes the GNG. Andrew D. (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2015 (UTC)


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