Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empress


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The result was   redirect to John Holmes (actor). v/r - TP 00:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empress

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I can't find significant coverage for this film. While it is true that there are several books with information about this pornographic film, it is only a few sentences or less in each book. The sentences are related to a bigger topic such as an actor's life and this type of film in general. Joe Chill (talk) 00:08, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: The New York Times review in the article isn't even about this film. Joe Chill (talk) 00:09, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
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 * Shot a few months after John Holmes (actor) tested positive for HIV, the most it might merit is a mention in the Holmes article as one of the last two films he ever made. However, notability might yet be sourced through Italian language reviews found about this Italian porn film under its original Italian title Carne bollente. The Times article simply confirms Holmes as having shot in Italy and engaging in unprotected sex for the film without informing his co-stars. Not a nice thing to do.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:51, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Redirect to John Holmes (actor) The only notability is that Holmes appeared in it, and this is more than adequately covered in his article. Kauffner (talk) 03:57, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it is a bit better covered there now, as I just made sure we have a decently sourced redirect target at John Holmes (pornographic actor)#Later years  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 13:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Redirect per Kauffner. I could not find significant coverage about this film, and I think that discussing it in the context of the actor is fine. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 18:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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