Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Secret Life of Arabia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to "Heroes" (David Bowie album). Consensus that this is not notable under NSONG or GNG but that redirecting is an appropriate WP:ATD Barkeep49 (talk) 02:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

The Secret Life of Arabia

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A non-notable track from David Bowie's 1977 album "Heroes". While it does have a few reliable sources, the information present can easily be added into the album article, which I plan to expand upon one of these days. Other than that it doesn't appear to be notable in its own right. – zmbro (talk) 19:14, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete appears to be an album only track, and was never a single in its own right, hardly notable enough to have its own page. Seasider91 (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  userdude 19:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to "Heroes" (David Bowie album) – no reason why it shouldn't be redirected to its parent album. Richard3120 (talk) 20:14, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No reason why it should be. Rlendog (talk) 01:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Because I believe it fails WP:NSONG and isn't notable enough for its own article. But it's a valid search term. Richard3120 (talk) 20:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 20:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to "Heroes" (David Bowie album): Not all songs in the album are notable. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 06:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Why not? And even if not all songs in the album are notable, why is this particular song not notable? Rlendog (talk) 01:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - None of the arguments above get to the issue of whether this song meets our notability guidelines or not. From my own bookshelves, Peter Doggett's The Man Who Sold the World, Nicholas Pegg's The Complete David Bowie and David Buckley's The Complete Guide to the Music of David Bowie all have an entry specifically on this song.  James Perone's The Words and Music of David Bowie has a good size paragraph analyzing the song.  I am sure there are plenty more given that this is a song from more than 40 years ago (and additional references are already in the article) but this is enough to demonstrate notability.Rlendog (talk) 01:14, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep There is enough coverage of the song itself. Meets GNG. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 00:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Doesn't meet WP:NSONGS. → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 18:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Per NSONGS "Songs and singles are probably notable if they have been the subject[1] of multiple,[2] non-trivial[3] published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label." This song meets that. Rlendog (talk) 12:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect. the content does not pass WP:NSONGS criteria for an independent article. The information here could be easily contained on the parent album's page. Per WP:OTHERSTUFF, the fact that other pages for songs from the album exist is the EXACT REASON WHY THIS ONE SHOULD NOT. Topics do not inherit notability from other related topics. Additionally, articles about songs from this album should not overly/heavily rely purely on published sources. To be honest Joe_the_Lion, Sons of the Silent Age, V-2 Schneider, Sense of Doubt, Moss Garden, Neuköln and The Secret Life of Arabia should all be merged. → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 18:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the comment that "articles about songs from this album should not overly/heavily rely purely on published sources." If we do not rely on published sources what do we rely on? Rlendog (talk) 12:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. Just a generic track that was never a single in its own right, and garnered very little coverage. Was created in 2006 when article standards were far lower. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the album, with leave to merge if there is a feeling there is enough relevant content. Non-single track without independent notability. This is not a keep vote. Stifle (talk) 09:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to "Heroes" (David Bowie album). Does not meet GNG on its own. Accesscrawl (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.