Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Shaked Spirit


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The result was   delete. Flowerparty ☀ 23:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

The Shaked Spirit

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Delete per WP:SOAP and maybe WP:HOAX. I've tried to clean up the article a bit but it is still so far removed from what actually appears to have aired on Israeli TV that I suggest deleting and starting again. Despite claims in the article that this is a 5 min. 30 sec. documentary about a massacre of Egyptians POWs -- with refs from Arab news sites and blogs repeating incorrect hearsay originating from Al Ahram-- the Haaretz article makes it clear that this is in fact a full-length documentary by Ran Adelist on the Israeli military unit, which included a brief segment on the killing of retreating Egyptian troops, and the qualms of some of the Israeli veterans, 30 years later, about following that order. No POWs were killed. This article was written by the creator of the now-deleted Holocaust of Gaza, and as the comments on the YouTube EL ("kill the jews," etc.) indicate, constitutes an attack piece more than anything else. I would consider withdrawing the Afd if someone else wants to rewrite from scratch: with a text that describes the actual The Shaked Spirit Channel One TV documentary – and the ensuing controversy sparked in the Egyptian press – in a factual, neutral fashion. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete—does not appear to be notable in any way. Also basically an advertisement for a political video. —Ynhockey (Talk) 22:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought the video was the excerpt from the film where the veterans discuss the controversial operation, but modified and re-titled to make it fit the Al Ahram version of events. Is that basically the case? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete A news item is not a documentary. --Shuki (talk) 06:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per User:Shuki and User:YnhockeyHistoricist (talk) 17:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 10:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
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